Excellent summary guys ........ i knew that they are close together, saves on installation costs if u get both at the same time .... and by the sounds of it, its worthwhile to do both at once. One other question, Will a clutch get progressively worse, or can it just die for no reason? Mine will slip fairly bad after short sessions of thrashing or flat changing. However, if i park it, leave it fro an hour and wait for it to cool down ... i can then drive it all day sensiblyt and it'll be ok. Im just scared that once day its not gonna keep doing this.