im looking more at ppl who have definately benefited from group buys !!! ... every person on the sway/strut bar group buy and the wing tips group buy has saved more than $40 ... and hence makes sense to contribute to the system that has allowed them to do so .. also the knowledge that ppl gain from here ... but only they can value that ..... although I realise it is completely their choice to join .... I will try my best to influence others .... to something I believe has helped all of us and will continue too as long as we support it .... servers dont grow on trees