yeh man the euro's were just sitting in my garage....... my dad took them off his when he sold his car so i figured i would make the most of them, and they look pretty good in real, especially on the back coz they streatch most of the width of the plate mounting area..... ill have to take some more pics yeh i did the sound deadening myself, makes heaps off difference, hasnt slowed the car down anything that i have noticed........