Blackkluger

We got the awd as when we had a test drive of the 2wd, i personally found lots of torque steer when pushing a little harder. ALso we intend to do a little bush bashing one day. I havent even set off the stability, abs or traction control as yet but have tried the hill descent, fantastic. Doesnt come in the FWD model.

We got the Ebony(black). We know its hard to keep clean, gives me a reason to wash it twice a week(with recycled water) Looks fantastic!

I went to Frankston as they are toyota dealer of the year. Their service is great and they also offer 1 hour service for your regular service schedules. Also they have loan cars if you wish not to have the 1 hour option. Let me know if you close as i can give you the name of theperson i dealt with. He hopefully can do you a great deal.

Hey since your so good at this, got instructions for wiring up 12v aux to your 7pin flat connector? I havent even looked at where it connects and all that. Will do it probably this weekend. thanks in advance

It is a question of cost. If the fuel price wasnt so high in the first place, i'll pay the extra 10c/ Since at the moment most of the time the car, sorry, SUV will be around town doing the runaround, then it will probably be a waste. I think for long trips, i will probably use premium, as to 95 or 98, that is the question. I got a coles source card so each month i get a bonus 4c off a litre, which is a total of 8c a litre off which pretty much covers the premium cost. Works out to be around $480* savings per yr if i do 40ks!

The mat is fantastic, you place something in there, it doesnt move! FANTASTIC.

I got the rubber mat too, have found when loading boxes, they dont slide in like it does without the mat, so you literally have to lift it and push at the same time. A little annoying but i guess i'll get use to it.

I got Vpower yesterday, went for a about a 200k drive, avg 10.5L/100k! At one stage it dropped to 9.1 but this was in constant 80k zone, when it went up to 100 or 110, it increase but had about 15% stop start traffic. Not bad i thought with full aircon on.

Anyone can tell me how they have found using premium unleaded(95 or 98) as compared with regular unleaded? Was there a real benefit in lower fuel use? Any feedback will be great, about to fill up my first full tank, wondering which way i should go.

Those commodore mirrors are so small compared to the klugers, one of the Better plus' of the kluger for sure.

Yes, fully maintained via novated lease, so all fuel expenses etc is pre tax. I did a 3yr and 45% residual. Obviously the less fuel i use the better, if i go over my estimated fuel costs, then i just pay extra. I figured because of the FBT involved(im using the ECM model which means i pay the FBT after tax), it was only going to cost me slightly more to go from 25ks a yr to 40ks(est @ approx $3375 of fuel @ $1.50 a litre, 15L/100k), i would save on FBT i need to pay by approx $2000!. Net result is that if i do 15,000 extra k's, this will cost just under 1400, which works out to be $9.33/100ks!(equivalent to 6.22L/100ks) Its a complex thing, but basically for me, i'd rather do the extra travel and pay a little extra for fuel, rather than paying $2000 extra FBT and get no satisfaction in the process. Also i got a 5 year 140,000k ext warranty with it, so it should last me 3.5 years in real terms approx. THerefore if anything goes wrong, the warranty should cover it. ECM: employee contribution method

If you put hot takeaway on there as well, dont forget to turn the seat warmers on too! lol

Yeah i have the option of salary sacrifice or Novated lease, i opt'd for the novated as it will cost around $20,000 a year and salary sacrifice was about $25,000 a year, yes i could do unlimited k's but i worked out that i can still do 40,000 with the cost around $20-$22 max... and i know how much the balloon is at the end, and i keep it.

Downhill decent control only works in R or S1(first gear manual mode). Therefore you cant really go too fast. I have been told if the decent is too long you may run out of brake pressure for the system to work, just like abs will do so(unlikely in a normal situation as once the abs goes off you normally stop before it runs out of puff). Apparently this can happen on ice...

When you novate it like i have, you really should do 25k's a year to make it worth while. Im gunning for the 40ks so that my FBT is less. (ps i did 65,000 in my last car for 2 years straight...)

The people i have spoken to in the past that are in that industry recommend speakers to be changed first, then if your still not happy, change the head unit. They say most cars have cheap speakers which dont do the head unit justice, and say that wasting $$$$ on a the best head unit will only work as good as its weakest link... Im wanting the pioneer dvd player and maybe the built in dvd in the headrest that i have seen. The grande one is no good as it completely blocks your rearward vision through the mirror...

Hi there, since you have a VBOX, when that shows your doing 100ks, whats the speedo showing? With synthetic oils, once you change to it, you cant go back is this right? Will it help the engine performance or what will it do?

The car seat in ours will have to go on the outside(reverse position) as we have the maxi riders for our 3 and 5 yo, and it wont fit in the centre but will if we have it on the side, also i think all the centre row seats will be safe, but for ease of moving your baby in and out, the passenger side seat of the middle row is where we will place our baby. Definitely not the in back row!

I actually bought a set of roof cross bars(lockable ones) several yrs ago for just $20, they use to be around $100. They are black but i have only seen black ones around. They are used for example, if you want to use a roof pod, you will need cross bars to hold it on there, the side rails which is standard is used to mount the cross bars on. will try it out later this yr when we venture interstate with the roof pod.

Was there any challenging parts where the FWD struggled? Did the traction control intervene much? or did you turn it off?

Our park brake didnt hold either, i better get them to tighten this too. Sounds like your Darwin Toyota dealer are rude as. Frankston being Australia Toyota dealer of the year, they are nice and look after you. With the boat ramp situation, if you press hard on the brake, it will hold the brakes on for 2 seconds. It will beep to indicate it is holding, and all you need to do is accelerate up the ramp. See how you go.

Can anyone advise why toyota dont offer as part of their price Road side assist? Its extra!

Well got my new kluger yesterday, no a single noise from the dash. It must have been an issue with the earlier models...

as soon as i get a few k's i'll let you know, according to others it tows quite well.

We also took delivery of our KXS AWD on Saturday, we couldnt be happier, it has all the stuff i wanted/needed. FANTASTIC!