hey guys just letting you know ill MOST LIKELY be there at this point stillunsure if the misses is going maybe help me out a little who else is taking there misses so i know whether to encourage her to come or stay home hehe cheers guys also that map means nothing to me LOL i still dont know where im going i need directions coming from M4 from penrith i can look in the directory so just street names is cool ill find it from there