Air/fuel Gauges

[dayve]

hey guys..looking into getting an air/fuel gauge

seller says " Before purchasing an air/fuel ratio gauge you will need to determine if your vehicle has an O2 sensor (0-1 Volt) installed" does this mean the MAF? loll...

sory for noobness

dayve

[CHA54]

I'd seriously not waste money on a narrowband AF meter... That means any gauge that works off the stock 0-1V o2 sensor.

All it will show is closed loop on cruise, full rich on throttle and full lean on decel.

A Wideband o2 sensor is a much better investment if you plan on tuning the car with a piggyback or standalone ECU. They cost more but they actually do something unlike a narrowband sensor.

I use Innovative wideband sensors in all my cars that have aftermarket ECU's, they're a nice bit of gear and can be had for ~$300 from the US on ebay including the sensor, bung, control unit, guage and laptop software with cable for logging/programming.

More info can be found here: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/

[dayve]

I'd seriously not waste money on a narrowband AF meter... That means any gauge that works off the stock 0-1V o2 sensor.

All it will show is closed loop on cruise, full rich on throttle and full lean on decel.

A Wideband o2 sensor is a much better investment if you plan on tuning the car with a piggyback or standalone ECU. They cost more but they actually do something unlike a narrowband sensor.

I use Innovative wideband sensors in all my cars that have aftermarket ECU's, they're a nice bit of gear and can be had for ~$300 from the US on ebay including the sensor, bung, control unit, guage and laptop software with cable for logging/programming.

More info can be found here: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/

thanks rollamods, i just wanted it for the rice factor.

but the narrowband sensor will work no problem right?

yeah im getting it tuned with a apexi SAFCII in a few months so i figured i needed a gauge.

[Jay.]

why dont you just get an apexi turbo timer dayve?

im pretty sure they show air/fuel

[SuperDave]

thanks rollamods, i just wanted it for the rice factor.

but the narrowband sensor will work no problem right?

yeah im getting it tuned with a apexi SAFCII in a few months so i figured i needed a gauge.

As Rollamods said, the narrowband is worthless, save the money for petrol. If you are doing some tuning and want to know what is happening get a wideband. A narrowband's only purpose is to tell you the stock O2 sensor is working, all the info it'll give you will be useless.

Narrowband gauge

Another narrowband

Wideband gauge

[CHA54]

thanks rollamods, i just wanted it for the rice factor.

but the narrowband sensor will work no problem right?

yeah im getting it tuned with a apexi SAFCII in a few months so i figured i needed a gauge.

A Narrowband is useless for tuning, wont help with an SAFC at all.

[dayve]

thanks rollamods, i just wanted it for the rice factor.

but the narrowband sensor will work no problem right?

yeah im getting it tuned with a apexi SAFCII in a few months so i figured i needed a gauge.

A Narrowband is useless for tuning, wont help with an SAFC at all.

thanks guys really helped me make up my mind. saved me 80 odd bucks :D

gona use that to put towards a whiteline strut brace now..figured its much more functional for an extra 80 odd :P