Project 5S-GTE

[Guest]

This is my ST184R Celica.

When i first bought it nearly 4 years ago, it was a basically stock ST184, with only wheels, a cat back exhaust, and a Pioneer CD player.

The first thing I did when i got it home, was strip the stereo from my wrecked SA63 Celica and put it in, aside from that stereo and a pod filter, it basically stayed the same right up until mid 2009... When, after looking around on CelicaTech and 6gc.net, i got the idea in my head that I could turbo it.

Now, the most common way of turbo-ing an ST184 is to simply swap a 3S-GTE from a GT4 celica, MR2, etc in to the car... but I felt like being different.

I decided I would try what a lot of guys in the USA have done... turbo the 5S-FE that is in the car already... Below is a basic list of the parts i used to do this;

Parts used;

CT26 Turbo

3SGTE Exhaust Manifold

3SGTE Dump Pipe

GT4 Celica exhaust flange (to make an exhaust to fit)

K&N GT4 Pod filter

2in Aluminium intercooler piping kit + Silicone Joiners

No brand 26x6x3 intercooler

HKS SSQV Blow off Valve

Greddy Emanage Blue

Blitz MSTT turbo timer

Denso 360cc high impedance injectors.

Walbro 255lph fuel pump

VDO Oil T-piece

heat shielded rubber coolant/water lines

Speco Boost Gauge

Zeitronix WBO2 Controller

Bosch WBO2 Sensor

Zeitronix LCD Display (Boost, EGT, AFR, etc)

The car is currently running and has a pretty safe/basic street tune in it... but after burning out the clutch I decided I need more power;

So here is STAGE II

-Full rebuild (got bearings, rings, gasket kit)

-3S-GE Head - purchased

-New Front Suspension

-New Brakes - Bendix Ultimate Pads, purchased

-New Clutch - Exedy HD, ordered

Parts used;

I have done a few exterior modifications to the car since I purchased it;

Exterior

GT4 Front Bar

GT4 Fog Lights

GT4 Bonnet

de-spoilered

flat-black rattle can paint job :D

17x7 ROH Boost-R wheels

Below are some pictures of the car how it is right now;

[DJKOR]

I can't wait to see this progress though its stages.

[Evo7]

see, turbo set-up has WAY more involved :P thats why im going with S/C haha LOL

good luck with it mate B)

Evo

[mrcrazyrolla]

Dang! This thing is gonna fly!

Long Live The Beast!

[Guni]

the most reliable way to clean the maf sensor element is to submerse the maf so the actual element is in metholated spirits, the switch the ignition on.

The hotwire heats up in the metho and the contaminates dissolve. Have found this works better than spraying with electrical contact cleaner etc.

see, turbo set-up has WAY more involved :P thats why im going with S/C haha LOL

good luck with it mate B)

Evo

Because its way more fun Evan !!!! :toast:

:P :P :P :P :P :P

Can't wait to see how this goes too. All da best mate!

[Guest]

Well I have some piccies of the bits I have so far...

The Turbo and Manifold

the oil/coolant lines and the boost controller

the new map sensor

the new oilpan

new wiring loom

the engine bay at the moment

[Guest]

Initial issues:

The unfortunate thing about the stock 5S-FE ECU is the fact that when you boost... it adds timing... now adding timing to a turbo'd engine can lead to detonation... which is BAD!

Now, the REV 1 5S-FE (which I have) will just keep adding timing and let the motor destroy itself, but the REV 2 has a knock sensor, and if it detects knock/detonation it will retard the timing... saving the engine.

So, the seemingly easiest option, is to get a knock sensor and run a REV 2 ECU... but this is harder than it seems.

Between REV 1 and REV 2 Toyota in their infinite wisdom decided to change the pinout of the ECU's (see below pinouts) as well as the dizzy and throttle position sensor... ugh.

This means I need to get a REV 2 loom, and my loom to create some kind of frankenloom. as well as a TPS and Dizzy.

what fun!

Once I get the REV II ECU I will go through the loom install/creation process.

Pinouts:

REV 1

REV 2

Edited April 25, 2009 by mick.wheelz

[Guest]

Just a small update:

Ordered a G-reddy E-manage blue today

http://greddy.com/products/display/?Catego...;SubCategory=48

I decided to go with the e-mange over the SAFC due to it being a lot more flexible, and having found one for the same price as an SAFC would cost me.

I also got a pile of bits off a 3S-GTE on the weekend (Radiator, Heat Shielding, Bov, etc)

will do another update when i re-wire the ECU

Edited April 28, 2009 by mick.wheelz

[Tats]

Sounds like you have done your research mate. I'll ask the obvious question, what made you choose this path over buying a ST185 halfcut and converting that way?

[Guest]

Sounds like you have done your research mate. I'll ask the obvious question, what made you choose this path over buying a ST185 halfcut and converting that way?

A couple of things made me chose the 5S-FTE route.

1. I will get more torque better and daily drive-ability from a 5S-FTE than a 3S-GTE

2. It is a lot less work (untill i need to swap out my gearbox and clutch, haha)

3. It will work out cheaper (a decent half cut will run $2,500-$3000, where as this project is looking at costing $2000)

4. I know the condition of my engine, since i recently pulled it down (2 months ago now), where as a halfcut the condition would be unknown.

5. To do something a little different to the norm ;)

[Evo7]

Hey mick,

i read through your list, and it seems you don't have a LSD down?

How are you gonna put the 200horses to the ground :P

Evo

[Guest]

Hey mick,

i read through your list, and it seems you don't have a LSD down?

How are you gonna put the 200horses to the ground :P

Evo

With GREAT difficulty....

an LSD may come when i do the 'box/clutch

EDIT: apparently the camry E153 came with a LSD, will investigate further

Edited April 28, 2009 by mick.wheelz

[Evo7]

Hey mick,

i read through your list, and it seems you don't have a LSD down?

How are you gonna put the 200horses to the ground :P

Evo

With GREAT difficulty....

an LSD may come when i do the 'box/clutch

EDIT: apparently the camry E153 came with a LSD, will investigate further

ahah :P

i gave you an idea... thats 25% of the profits go to me LOL jks :P

this is going to turn out really good... at least you have some of your bits and pieces... i have to wait for mine :(

So does that mean you have another car to run around in?

Evo

[Guest]

Hey mick,

i read through your list, and it seems you don't have a LSD down?

How are you gonna put the 200horses to the ground :P

Evo

With GREAT difficulty....

an LSD may come when i do the 'box/clutch

EDIT: apparently the camry E153 came with a LSD, will investigate further

ahah :P

i gave you an idea... thats 25% of the profits go to me LOL jks :P

this is going to turn out really good... at least you have some of your bits and pieces... i have to wait for mine :(

So does that mean you have another car to run around in?

Evo

I have a big electric car... also know as a train. haha.

Also, I have my housemates car... 2008 Ford Focus LOLZ

[Guest]

Here is a non-turbo related question.....

Does it look better de-spoilered?

I had to take the spoiler off to get rid of the ant infestation, and i think it looks pretty good without it.

and the obligatory random pile of parts, haha.

Edited April 28, 2009 by mick.wheelz

[Evo7]

It actually looks pretty good without the spoiler... i guess thats why they call it a spoiler :P

Perhaps a bigger spoiler is in order

But i would go with no spoiler until you get bored, then put the wing sponsored by qantas on

Evo

[Guest]

I aint having no quantas wing on my car!

[Evo7]

I aint having no quantas wing on my car!

Then, go with the no spoiler, looks pretty tidy B)

Evo

[Guni]

Agreed.

I like the clean look so no spoiler for me.

Unless your lifting off around corners then best to have them ...... ;)

[Guest]

quick update, got a new dizzy, coil, tps and tb from a rev ii today

[Guest]

took another photo from a diff. angle without the spoiler... its really grown on me

[Guest]

collected my dump pipe this weekend, and it has an egt sender in it.. thats a plus.

[Guest]

E MANAGE ARRIVED TODAY!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Guest]

also picked up my walbro 255 today

[Guest]

Well I fitted the emanage last nite.

Here is a very quick guide to how to do it. . (fuel management only, ign will come later)

The emanage has 6 wires... they connect to the following on the ECU

Red - +12v - BATT (Pink wire, red dot)

Black - Gnd - E01 - (White wire, black stripe)

Brown - RPM - IGF - (Black wire, grey stripe)

White - Airflow In - PIM (wiring loom side, grey wire, black stripe)

Green - Airflow Out - PIM (ECU side, grey wire, black stripe)

Grey - TPS - Not connected.

I will post pics and a better guide later on.