why are the AE102R clutchs so crap

[6800rpm]

gday all.

i just joined this club the other day. i have a 1997 corolla conquest sedan 5spd 1.8L.

ive been through 3 clutchs with in 35,000km. 2 standard (10,000) PBR, (10,000) EXIDY. i then went out and bought a EXIDY heavy duty which has lasted about 5,000km longer and its not sliping just yet but it is about to go. i dont launch it off the line and 95% of the time im taking off from the line at about 900rpm. what i do though is when im giving it some ill drop the clutch into gears and ill down shift but i am matching the engine speed to with in 100rpm of gear box speed if not perfect.

does any one know of a spacific clutch that can take a beating with out dying so quickly? i know its alot to ask but surely their is a ceramic clutch made for my year model that isnt patheticly weak. and no im not prepared to change the way i drive..... so dont sugest it, i love the sound of my engine when its hitting the rev limiter

thanks for any responces hope to meet you at a club meet in sydney

[CHA54]

Who is installing your clutch? Is everything being machined properly and the clutch bedded in correctly?

You should get at least 40,000km from the Exedy HD if it's abused, or about 100,000km driven normally.

The standard clutch should also last about 100K driven normally.

When they're "gone" what is at fault? is the clutch plate down to the rivets? or is there plenty of meat on it and the pressure plate has lost it's spring?

Are all the clutch parts replaced when it has been fixed, or do they just replace the disc?

Have you had any of the old clutches inspected by a professional to find out what the cause of premature failure was?

Is the clutch master adjusted properly?

Kevin at St Mary's Specialised Brake and Clutch is the guy to see in Sydney if you have clutch or brake issues.

There's no real difference between the AE102R clutch and any of the AE93, AE111, AE112R clutches out there, the same disc is used in the ZZE rollas aswell.

an Exedy HD disc with rebuilt OEM pressure plate held up fine in my turbo 4age.

gday all.

i just joined this club the other day. i have a 1997 corolla conquest sedan 5spd 1.8L.

ive been through 3 clutchs with in 35,000km. 2 standard (10,000) PBR, (10,000) EXIDY. i then went out and bought a EXIDY heavy duty which has lasted about 5,000km longer and its not sliping just yet but it is about to go. i dont launch it off the line and 95% of the time im taking off from the line at about 900rpm. what i do though is when im giving it some ill drop the clutch into gears and ill down shift but i am matching the engine speed to with in 100rpm of gear box speed if not perfect.

does any one know of a spacific clutch that can take a beating with out dying so quickly? i know its alot to ask but surely their is a ceramic clutch made for my year model that isnt patheticly weak. and no im not prepared to change the way i drive..... so dont sugest it, i love the sound of my engine when its hitting the rev limiter

thanks for any responces hope to meet you at a club meet in sydney

[6800rpm]

the pbr was installed by a crap mechanic in chatswood. from their on in ive been going to a guy in lindfield whos a champ, ever time ive broken something hes done right by me with high quality work

fly wheel machined, brand new clutch kits for both the exidys... i know coz im their when its happening talking to them. everything is aligned with the corect tools. i dont rev out my engine when i get new clutchs, only to about 3,000rpm for two weeks (1,000km) i slowly warm is up for another week just to get used to it when changing at high rpm and then i give it heaps from their on in.

so 1500 km before it gets thrashed, its slipping when i take it in, so their is damage to the clutch plate but the guy said im destroying my presure plate, im not into my burn outs ay just dumping it into gears. if you have a number for this guy at st marys ill give him a call with what he recomends, other wise ill try your exidy and oem mix.

im off to get a exhaust soon, im just doing the shopping for my parts atm, something nice and clean, ive done the suspension 100% overhaul of every part bushing and arm, even a new steering box. exhaust next then clutch followed soon after.

thanks for your quick reply, im surprised to hear that the newer strolas have similar clutchs the worst part about my car is my clutch, its the only thing ive had major problems with, if your exidy oem mix doesnt work ill investigate getting a custom built clutch ive heard good things.... alot of money though

[CHA54]

Look up St Mary's specialised Brake and Clutch in the white pages for their number.

I had my OEM pressure plate uprated by NPC in Brisbane, as the OEM pressure plate can develop more clamp than the Exedy pressure plates.

I've had 7 corolla's, all using the similar type of clutch, and the only one I've ever had a problem with was a custom 4-puck ceramic disc using a PBR center that snapped the retainer for the cusioning spring, the spring fell out and jammed the pressure plate so the clutch couldn't be engaged. That was basically the fault of the pbr center design and the way they stamp the retaining plates, which have a weak spot from factory and shouldn't really be used with puck clutches. The Exedy HD center's are a lot better design.

Also make sure that your flywheel is being machined correctly since it's been done so many times. When the thing is faced, a good workshop will also machine the mounting face for the pressure plate's outer edge by the same amount as the disc face to ensure that the pressure plate will work as designed.

Edited September 22, 2006 by rollamods

[lucio_libre]

Maybe it's not the clutch at fault.

[6800rpm]

well of corse you could always argue that with any problem the design isnt at fault and that its the driver. so if your implying that its the way i drive you are probibly correct, i drop the clutch alot but i dont ride it, not in trafic not on hills and not while changing gears..... i did buy a heavy duty clutch for a heavy duty purpose though. i think the oem center seems to be a good way to go. thanks for the replies

[SPTIVO_LUVA]

i got a clutch done by a dodgy guy in my old car and he done it for cheap... lol it lasted like 2 months and it failed. learn't my lesson pay that little bit extra and u will have a little bit extra in your pocket.