If TOCAU 'ran out of money' and had to close, I would run it from my website, just one extra database, big deal. Seriously man, I doubt they're struggling to scrape together the $25 annually or whatever to keep this site running. Especially with the added money they make from the Google ads. If the owners/operators of TOCAU made a request to users for funds, and gave a reason, sure I would definately donate a little. But another user saying that it's 'p1ss poor' that I dont give money, is no incentive at all. As far as the original posters, well, original post regarding domain names, I'd just like to add that toc.com.au is available. But BigBum's point is a good one, most people have this site bookmarked. It's no small feat to shift peoples 'brand awareness' to a new domain name. edit: Go.d damn it, why the f.uck can't we say 'p!ss' in here. There's an improvement idea! edit2: And G.od?! Seriously wtf, lighten up.