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Thought I may as well share this with you guys... A while back some of you may know I had my bmw up for sale... It was on eBay for a while, but no serious offers... Well on the description I had put my email in there if someone needed more information and pictures (I already knew about the fact that this left me open to scam artists... It never bothered me though)

I received an email about 2 days after I put the car on eBay and right away I knew it was a suss, but I wrote back anyway, here's a series of emails to/from "Neil" who was most certainly interested in my fine automobile...

My emails are in Bold

Neil's are regular

Narrations in RED

Enjoy

>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:39:17 +0000

>>> Subject: 1991 e36 325i Auto Sedan

>>> From: neill19877@gmail.com

I was just glancing through ebay.com.au because i need to buy your item,it a very lovely stuff you have gotten here and I am interested in buying it outrightly.For a quick sale, I will pay you 16000.00aud for it. I was planning going on physically to purchase it but could not due to the nature of my work as am always on the move cos I am a marine engineer and I work with an International shipping company. it will be picked up at your location by my pick up agent I will be paying with my paypal account.so please do reply me asap with your paypal account or send me a payment request from your paypal account so i can effect payment to you right away.I await your reply

>>> NB:Honestly, I do not know the actual worth of this item because I?malways busy sailing. If my offer is not ok, Let me know so i can shoot up abit or bring it down as the case maybe.Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards Neil Obvious scam is obvious... The car was only up for $5,000

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Hi Neil, I would settle the price of the car for $16,000 if you are still interested... I'll send you a payment request, it is in 2 seperate requests, 1 of $3500, the other of $12500, both to equal $16000, due to Paypals maximum limit transfers What time would your agent like to pick it up? So I can organise a time for me to be home

Thankyou

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Hi there , This is to tell you that i just completed the payment,i sent the managers name and address to paypal,am sure they will include this with the comfirmation that will be sent to you,here is it also below:

Adnan Bhatti,

42 rushams road,

horsham,

west sussex.

United Kingdom.

please help me go to any western union money transfer office close to you and send the remaining balance of the funds to the manager info above,send the MTCN number and all other informations giving to you at the western union office to me,i will send it over to there headquarters immediately i get it..get back to me asap...thanks so much

Neill.

And Wow, I check my email... And there it is... One FAKE email from paypal.com... Oh no it's badly photoshopp'd... Or MSpaint'd by the looks of it, even the fake disclaimer was in bad English

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Hi Dale, it was nice of you sending a payment request to me so quickly...thanks so much,am okay with the condition and the price of the car-$16000aud and am ready to buy it pls get the advert down from the web i will instruct a payment to you from my paypal account,i want the car for a special duty which is best known to me,am located in South Australia but presently am at work of the coast of brisbane,i sail there now,am a marine engineer and a very busy one indeed,i can give you more info of me if you want.

I'll be responsible for the pick-up,my trevor movers pick up company will handle everything,they are international and i prefer them because they offer first class pick up thats not a problem your payment will include some money, just to avoid delay, cost of postage and to enable my mover's to schedule an appropriate time for the pick-up at your location as i also have other properties to be moved along side with your item,also all required documents will be signed by my pick up company on my behalf...all what you need to know will be done by my trevor movers pick up company.

Also,there is a problem here,i just contacted my pick up agent immediately i saw your payment request,they asked for your address and they said that i will have to send in payment before the item will be picked up at your location and that all paymnent should be sent to there headquarters in the UK,well i think i have to inform you before i make the transfer,can you do me a favour by sending the 950aud to there manager in the UK probably via the western union,once he verifies the money,there agent in australia will come to pick the stuff upimmediately,so i will have no choice than to add an additional 950aud plus the money,i want to be sure that you can send the money for the pick up to my pick up agent before i make transfer...thanks so much for your coorperation and get back to me asap...Neill

"Special Duty which is best known to me" WTF is he planning on doing in my car?

And oh noes, looks like he can't transfer money without me paying his "pickup agent" how convenient...

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If I recieve payment, I will do that

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Hello dale,

thanks so much for your quick response,but its so fast....yeah i told you paypalm is very fast,reliable and safe,they protect their customers from online scams...that's cool,they have deducted the money from my account and the receipt has been sent to me...anyway let me go through the receipt that they sent to me,i will get back to you soon,did they ask you to do anything?

Deducted the money already? Sure

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Yeah I wouldn't want to have some sort of online scam, but you seem legit, so I trust you very very very very very very much. Nah mate, they didn't ask me to do anything, much love

xoxo

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Hello dale,

Thanks so much for your response and i have been expecting this so much,i don't know that the payment will be so fast this way because paypal has already deducted the money from my account which is making me so worried as i don't know that everything will be so fast this way,i already told you that i love paypal cos they are very fast,safe and reliable...they are the best when transferring money online...that is why i love them...the money has been deducted and the receipt has been sent to me...Yes the MTCN NUMBER will be giving to you at the WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER OFFIVE,THE WESTERN UNION MTCN NUMBER SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE SENT MONEY VIA THE WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER...This is what you will have to send to paypal for them to credit your account....Also i want you to know that i have paid the money into your paypal email address dazzamate42@hotmail.com i want you to check that your paypal email address for the paypal confirmation messages cos in was told that the confirmation has been sent to you....I receive emails from paypal every time and they told me that they have also sent mails to you too...Is that true??? All you have to do now is very simple,you will have to get the 950aud,go to ay CLOSE POST OFFICE TO YOUR ADDRESS,tell them that you want to send money via the WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER...they will help you out,they will give a receipt which stand as a proof that you have sent the money to my agent,this is what you will send to paypal for them to credit your account as they told me that the money is till pending in your account and that they will credit your account as soon as they confirm that you have sent the money to my agent...ok?i want you to do that ASAP...kindly look for any close post office to your address and send the money to my agent...ok send the WESTERN UNION DETAILS TO PAYPAL ,they will then credit your account...ok i am 100% sure of that...ok? i will be awaiting your response...Thanks and God bless

Neill.

Oh Noes, I'm so worried because the money has already been deducted, wah wah wah

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Unfortunately Neil, We're in a bit of a pickle here. I do not have a spare 950 dollars ok? I'm a few hundred dollars short ok?... If maybe, somehow ok? you can send me a paypal payment of about $200.00aud through Paypal ok? I will be able to transfer it right away ok? Paypal will be able to transfer that much instantly without needing a receipt ok? Just send Me the payment through and I'll head down to Western Union ASAP and I will return the $200 once I have the rest of the money you send, kthxbai

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HEY DALE,

THANKS SO MUCH FOR RESPONDING BACK TO ME AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR UNDERSTANDING ME...I HAVE A GOOD NEWS FOR US DALE...I JUST CONTACTED MY PICK UP COMPANY AND I HAVE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING TO THEM ABOUT THIS AND THEY HAVE PROMISED TO HELP US...DALE,I HAVE NO 200AUD TO GIVE TO YOU COS I HAVE PAID ALL THE MONEY WHICH I HAVE IN MY ACCOUNT TO YOU...OK? I HAVE NOW TOLD MY PICK UP COMPANY AND I HAVE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING TO THEM ABOUT THIS AND I TOLD THEM THAT YOU HAVE ONLY 800AUD OUT OF THE 950AUD AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT YOU CAN PAY THE 800AUD AS THE DEPOSIT TO THEM AND THAT YOU WILL PAY THE REMAINING BALANCE AS SOON AS PAYPAL CREDITS YOUR ACCOUNT...THEY HAVE ALSO NOW GIVEN ME THE NEW DETAILS THAT YOU WILL BE SENDING THE MONEY TO WHICH IS BELOW, "I have no 200 dollars to give you because that's all the money in my account" Is he serious? Oh well I tried

Olawale Adesokan,

s8/510b,Oba Akinyele Road,

Uhaul Movers Block

Bodija,

Oyo State.

Nigeria

23402. Oh my, I thought this whole thing was a scam until I noticed the name and address

THEY SAID THAT YOU ARE NO LONGER SENDING THE MONEY TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME CRITICAL ISSUES AT THEIR HEAD OFFICE AND THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE DIRECTED ALL PAYMENT TO THE BRANCH OFFICE...I THINK THEY HAVE HELPED US ENOUGH DALE,ALL YOU HAVE TO DO NOW IS VERY SIMPLE,KINDLY GET THE 800AUD AND GO TO ANY CLOSE POST OFFICE NEAR YOU AND TELL THEM THAT YOU WANT TO SEND MONEY VIA THE WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER,YOU WILL THEN GIVE THEM THE DETAILS WHICH YOU WANT TO SEND THE MONEY TO WHICH IS THE ONE I HAVE GIVEN YOU ABOVE...OK? YOU WILL THEN SEND THE WESTERN UNION DETAILS TO PAYPAL AS SOON AS YOU ARE THROUGH WITH THE TRANSFER..OK?THEY WILL THEN CREDIT YOUR ACCOUNT...KINDLY GET BACK TO ME ASAP

KIND REGARDS

NEILL.

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Duuuuuude, CAPS, FML. Not necessary... Unfortunately Neill, I now no longer have the 800 dollars as I went shopping and bought these beautiful pair of stiletto shoes, like the big glass ones with the pink leather straps and all the sexy little frilly bits, they were to die for!!! I am a crossdresser by day, so I kinda needed these. I now only have 600 dollars so I can't make that payment, hope you understand. You'll need to find a way to transfer me some money through paypal, at least 300 dollars and I'll make that payment to western union, I promise

Love you lots, Dale

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Hey Dale,

Thanks so much for your response and i understand everything...ok? i know this is not easy for you but at this junction we have no choice as you have to send the deposit to the pick up company so that paypal can credit your account and you will then be able to pay them the balance...i understand so much why you spent the money cos it's very much necessary...also i am so sorry for the late response it was due to my work...Dale i have now spoken with my pick up company and they have now said that you can send the 550aud remaining as the deposit...so all you have to do is that you will remove 550aud from the money and send it first thing tomorrow to the details which i sent to you,you will then get back to paypal with the western union details...ok? The details you will be sending to paypal are

1: THE MTCN NUMBER

2: SENDER'S NAME

3: TEXT QUESTION AND ANSWER

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Stilleto shoes were very much necessary Neill bro.

Here's another problem, I also visited a brothel today and spent a further 300 dollars... so now I only have 200 dollars left in money to my name... So now I do not have enough to cover the $500 anymore, it's such a shame, because your offer seemed so genuine, maybe we can work out some other arrangement, like I said, i'm a crossdresser, maybe we can meet up on your boat, did I mention i love sailing *wink wink*

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Hey there, so how much can you afford to get dale? kindly get back to me asap!

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I have about 80 cents at the moment Neil, so I'll need to sell my car to someone else,

sorry brah

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You are such a dumb ***** n#gg#...i dont want people like you...get the

f#ck out with your low life poor ***** n#gg#!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neill, don't be like that

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Neill, I am not a n#gg#... I sold my ar5e on the streets and managed to get the 900 dollars, must have been the stiletto's, you gotta spend money to make money right? I was just about to head off to Western Union to deposit the money to you... Did you still want to buy the car?

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Why are you doing this dale...send the money to the pick up company asap!

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Hello Dale,

i just want to say that am so sorry for the bad mail i sent to you..i was so angry! am so sorry...please go ahead and send the 900aud to them,send it to the information which i sent to you and send the western union details back to me...ok? kindly get back to me asap

kind regards neill

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Neill you were a little bit mean to me, I dunno if I want you to have my car anymore, my feelings are really hurt, I was hoping I could trust you, but it just turns out that all this information has been tracked by the federal police department and you should expect a visit from them very soon...

God Bless

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The Moral of the story... If you are going to buy Stiletto's, make sure you still have money left over to transfer to Nigeria

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my supervisor at work had the same thing happen to him when he tried to sell a car on www.carsales.com.au - except they had an actual dodgey bank account, not pay pal. This is why I don't trust Pay Pal and prefer direct deposits or cash... Not because there's anything wrong with pay pal, but because there's ppl who try and scheme it because its made out to be so safe... cash is safe...

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Bahahaha, brilliant....I love how you were trying to bait him into letting you have a "free* boat ride....classic.....Very funny :D

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Nice one mate and well handled :D

similar thing happened to my mate a few weeks back when he was selling his R8 Clubsport on Carsales except this dude worked on an oil rig in the Bearing sea and wanted to go through a money exchange similar to your scammer,my mate caught on real quick and told this fool that his older brother who is a member of the Hells Angels is now looking for him to have a quiet chat and trust me if these guys want to find you they will,in any part of the world. :spiteful:

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I would have thought that surely he would have known I was taking the p!ss as soon as I started telling him about my crossdressing hobbies... And maybe he'd pay a little extra if I could go for a cruise around Australia with him

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