haltech ems

[kevrolla]

hey guys, i need some input about getting a haltech ems. heard it does igitition and fuel control. would this be a good option if i dont plan to go turbo (atm)? any other ems out there that i should look into as well? (apexi power fc is a bit too pricy :( )

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

hey guys, i need some input about getting a haltech ems. heard it does igitition and fuel control. would this be a good option if i dont plan to go turbo (atm)? any other ems out there that i should look into as well? (apexi power fc is a bit too pricy :( )

well mate the power FC is approx $1250 here in australia but there is no harness for the corolla. However Matt from Monkey Wrench Racing in the US is almost complete in finishing the harness for the corolla and he sells them for $895 USD plus delivery which is about $150 so its a good price. Same as if you were to buy here without the harness and its plug and play unlike here. Other wise you can also get the Greddy Emanage Ultimate for Approx $600AUD imported from US as these units are your top of the range piggy back item. im getting the turbo kit of him and getting the Greddy Ultimate piggy back computer so ye.

[Northy]

hey guys, i need some input about getting a haltech ems. heard it does igitition and fuel control. would this be a good option if i dont plan to go turbo (atm)? any other ems out there that i should look into as well? (apexi power fc is a bit too pricy :( )

well mate the power FC is approx $1250 here in australia but there is no harness for the corolla. However Matt from Monkey Wrench Racing in the US is almost complete in finishing the harness for the corolla and he sells them for $895 USD plus delivery which is about $150 so its a good price. Same as if you were to buy here without the harness and its plug and play unlike here. Other wise you can also get the Greddy Emanage Ultimate for Approx $600AUD imported from US as these units are your top of the range piggy back item. im getting the turbo kit of him and getting the Greddy Ultimate piggy back computer so ye.

is the harness for the Aus spec cars?

emanage is your best bet, you can pickup one for around the $300 mark 2nd hand too..

[xoom]

hey guys, i need some input about getting a haltech ems. heard it does igitition and fuel control. would this be a good option if i dont plan to go turbo (atm)? any other ems out there that i should look into as well? (apexi power fc is a bit too pricy :( )

well mate the power FC is approx $1250 here in australia but there is no harness for the corolla. However Matt from Monkey Wrench Racing in the US is almost complete in finishing the harness for the corolla and he sells them for $895 USD plus delivery which is about $150 so its a good price. Same as if you were to buy here without the harness and its plug and play unlike here. Other wise you can also get the Greddy Emanage Ultimate for Approx $600AUD imported from US as these units are your top of the range piggy back item. im getting the turbo kit of him and getting the Greddy Ultimate piggy back computer so ye.

the hydra ems seems to be getting a good write up by the celica guys in the states but there is no support for it here and is relatively unknown ....

Piggybacks on the sportivo have been found to be a waste of time with the stock ecu working its way around the piggyback ....

the other thing to take note are not all things coming over from MWR will fit our cars .... the pfc from mwr was tried in melb 2 no avail and their turbo manifolds arent right for us either given the rhd vs lhd issue with our steering being in the way .... this is just some of the stuff u need to keep in mind when dealing with the guys in the states .... Other bits n piece from MWR will be right given lhd vs rhd is not in the question .... but wen it comes to things like electronics given that the 2 cars dont even come off the same assembly line and have been known 2 have variances u would be taking a risk in grabbing one of these harnesses from the US.

That being said .... nothing gained without taking the risk.

[specialized32]

just curious how much is the greddy turbo kit setting you back turbosportivo? I heard also there a bit of a pain modyfying to fit the sportivo. Power fc seems the way to go pity nobody in vic can sort the bugs out :(

Cheers

[MR22ZZ]

Even though the Haltech can support VVTi I don't think it can support Lift... someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

just curious how much is the greddy turbo kit setting you back turbosportivo? I heard also there a bit of a pain modyfying to fit the sportivo. Power fc seems the way to go pity nobody in vic can sort the bugs out :(

Cheers

well i spoke to a few guys and its gonna cost $4000 aud at my door step. It takes 1week to come in from the states. If you were to purchase it here in australia its $5671.50. Ye regarding the issue associated with installing it into the sportivo i saw a thread on newcelica.org and there was a guy in greece whoinstalled it into his runx which is the same car as ours and they required a longer belt and also relocating the water bottle thats about it. The kit comes with everything and as is runs on 8.5psi and with the trust airinx kit produces 81hp at the flywheel. so it is substational gain. if you include extractors and a good free flow exhaust and a aggressive tune or a smaller puley i wouldnt be surprised if you can extractmore power out of it. the guy that installed it in greece had 258hp at the flywheel which is pretty good. and it looks like i am going to be going down this path aswell because after talking with xoom it might not be worth the headache if MWR, or C2 or Hass Pros manifold wont fit. im just getting a price on a custom turbo manifold and if its decent i might go that path otherwise i will be ordering the greddy s/c end of this week. and northy the apexi pfc harness they are working on is for the south african runx and also the matrix xrs and corolla xrs so im pretty sure it would work. my car is a south african build so ye.

[specialized32]

just curious how much is the greddy turbo kit setting you back turbosportivo? I heard also there a bit of a pain modyfying to fit the sportivo. Power fc seems the way to go pity nobody in vic can sort the bugs out :(

Cheers

well i spoke to a few guys and its gonna cost $4000 aud at my door step. It takes 1week to come in from the states. If you were to purchase it here in australia its $5671.50. Ye regarding the issue associated with installing it into the sportivo i saw a thread on newcelica.org and there was a guy in greece whoinstalled it into his runx which is the same car as ours and they required a longer belt and also relocating the water bottle thats about it. The kit comes with everything and as is runs on 8.5psi and with the trust airinx kit produces 81hp at the flywheel. so it is substational gain. if you include extractors and a good free flow exhaust and a aggressive tune or a smaller puley i wouldnt be surprised if you can extractmore power out of it. the guy that installed it in greece had 258hp at the flywheel which is pretty good. and it looks like i am going to be going down this path aswell because after talking with xoom it might not be worth the headache if MWR, or C2 or Hass Pros manifold wont fit. im just getting a price on a custom turbo manifold and if its decent i might go that path otherwise i will be ordering the greddy s/c end of this week. and northy the apexi pfc harness they are working on is for the south african runx and also the matrix xrs and corolla xrs so im pretty sure it would work. my car is a south african build so ye.

cool thanks anybody know about this turbo kit at all

Turbo kit

runs on a greddy e-manage

[MR22ZZ]

the car is Greece is not the same as ours... it has one major difference... it is left hand drive!!!!

you will find that this turbo kit will not fit in our cars because of the position of the steering column and a few other bits and pieces that are different to the RHD vehicles. But if you are going to get it, then good luck to you. There will be a lot of custom work involved to make it fit.

[specialized32]

blue stivos right considering you buy a whole kit and only about 1/3 will fit seems like a waste of money to me :(

[Mintos]

if you are going to do a turbo job on these cars....Power FC is the best option, emanage ultimate second best...haltechs arent well suited for Toyotas from what i have seen.

secondly any turbo job done on these cars needs to be completely custom, anything "bolt-on" from overseas is a waste of money and won't fit without some chronic modification.

[kevrolla]

wow thanks guys.. didnt know it could get so complicated, i shall keep all dis in mind.

[Northy]

if the harness is being made for the "south african runx and also the matrix xrs and corolla xrs" it wont fit our cars as the looms are different.

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

the car is Greece is not the same as ours... it has one major difference... it is left hand drive!!!!

you will find that this turbo kit will not fit in our cars because of the position of the steering column and a few other bits and pieces that are different to the RHD vehicles. But if you are going to get it, then good luck to you. There will be a lot of custom work involved to make it fit.

The car im referring to in greece is supercharged not turbo. It uses the greddy kit for the celica.

[MR22ZZ]

sorry, I can't see where you referred to that car being supercharged so excuse my lack of mind reading...

and while on that, punctuation is a life saver at times

But even the supercharger kit needs to be modified a little to fit, though not as dramatically as the Turbo, at least you can get the S/C bolted onto the intake... But I recommend looking around at what other S/Cs are available... and weighing up all their pros and cons 1st before deciding on the 1st one you see. I know of about 3 or 4 you can get.

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

sorry, I can't see where you referred to that car being supercharged so excuse my lack of mind reading...

and while on that, punctuation is a life saver at times

But even the supercharger kit needs to be modified a little to fit, though not as dramatically as the Turbo, at least you can get the S/C bolted onto the intake... But I recommend looking around at what other S/Cs are available... and weighing up all their pros and cons 1st before deciding on the 1st one you see. I know of about 3 or 4 you can get.

well the blitz kit and greddy ones are the only ones i konw. Blitz make it specific for the RunX Z which is our sportivo.the only disadvantage of the kit is that the EMS supplied doesnt work on the australian cars and as a result is not included in the kit. Matt from Blitz Australia told me to go with the greddy Ultimate. And as for the greddy kit i talked to a few guys on the newcelica forum and the guys in greece have completed an install onto a fwd runxz. the two issues they came across were using a new belt which is larger then the one supplied by greddy and also relocation of the water bottle as it is in the way. IF you could tell me what kits you know are available it would be good. my other option is to go custom using a procharger centrifugal charger but it is alittle pricey.

[MR22ZZ]

the water bottle is on the opposite side in our cars so that may not be an issue.

[Northy]

the water bottle is on the opposite side in our cars so that may not be an issue.

it is still in the way :(

[MR22ZZ]

that's why I said 'may not'... thanks for the clarification Corey :D

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

Blu-Stivo i enquired with a friend who works in lotus spares at rick damelian and the inlet manifold and plenum used on there exige 240R costs $3500 and it uses the same supercharger as the greddy unit. so it is quite abit of money but it adds the intercooler setup. How much would purchasing the eaton supercharger cost on its own you have any ideas? if its cheap i guess it may be worth it going there setup.

[Northy]

Blu-Stivo i enquired with a friend who works in lotus spares at rick damelian and the inlet manifold and plenum used on there exige 240R costs $3500 and it uses the same supercharger as the greddy unit. so it is quite abit of money but it adds the intercooler setup. How much would purchasing the eaton supercharger cost on its own you have any ideas? if its cheap i guess it may be worth it going there setup.

its not gonna cost you $1000, so its prolly not worth it considering all the fabrication that would be involved....

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

Blu-Stivo i enquired with a friend who works in lotus spares at rick damelian and the inlet manifold and plenum used on there exige 240R costs $3500 and it uses the same supercharger as the greddy unit. so it is quite abit of money but it adds the intercooler setup. How much would purchasing the eaton supercharger cost on its own you have any ideas? if its cheap i guess it may be worth it going there setup.

its not gonna cost you $1000, so its prolly not worth it considering all the fabrication that would be involved....

i had a look on CAPA's website and the charger itself costs $2800 bloody expensive. what fabrication you talking bout northy?the manifold bolts straight on as the lotus exige s uses the 2zzge motor from the corolla. fabrication for intercoooler yes. So otherwise just get the greddy kit and use a water/methanol injection instead thats what lotus do anyway they have 2 injectors on the intercooler inlet side to reduce air temps further.

[Northy]

Blu-Stivo i enquired with a friend who works in lotus spares at rick damelian and the inlet manifold and plenum used on there exige 240R costs $3500 and it uses the same supercharger as the greddy unit. so it is quite abit of money but it adds the intercooler setup. How much would purchasing the eaton supercharger cost on its own you have any ideas? if its cheap i guess it may be worth it going there setup.

its not gonna cost you $1000, so its prolly not worth it considering all the fabrication that would be involved....

i had a look on CAPA's website and the charger itself costs $2800 bloody expensive. what fabrication you talking bout northy?the manifold bolts straight on as the lotus exige s uses the 2zzge motor from the corolla. fabrication for intercoooler yes. So otherwise just get the greddy kit and use a water/methanol injection instead thats what lotus do anyway they have 2 injectors on the intercooler inlet side to reduce air temps further.

i know it bolts on mate, as it uses the same motor, same as the Elise 111R. if your going to go to all this troubble why not just get the blitz kit....

[TURBOSPORTIVO]

the blitz kit for the RunX is non-intercooled. and im still waiting on getting an answer from matt from blitz australia to tell me if the celica kit will fit or not as it has the manifold for intercooler input. thanx for your input northy

[specialized32]

blitz kit for the celica will not be a perfect fit and still need modification with the manifold and fitting bracket if i remember talk to bill (xoom) he has done his research on all avenues relating to F/I, go N/A beast its easier northy think you mentioned regoli? did they do some turbos on 2zz's?