Few questions on 3S-GE engines...

[AvivB]

Hi everyone,

As I mentioned in my introducing post (see signature for the link), my engine is 3S-GE and it's tired...

I considering my next steps (swap to same, swap to different one or overhaul for the existing one) and I've a few questions.

I'll appreciate any answer and/or redirection...

1. How can I distinguish between the different revisions of the 3S-GE engines (from looking on them, I don't have any other details on them)?

I'm assuming mine is 2nd rev. because it's from ST182 from 1992... but it is only an assumption...

Also, I assume the that one engine that I saw for sale (imported from Japan) is 3rd rev. because it is from ST202 (have no idea from what year).

2. Continuing with those assumptions (that my engine is rev. 2 and I've the option to get the rev. 3 one (and gain 30HP))...

Do I need to change also the ECU (and cable) or I can fit him on the same ECU I've?

Thanks in advance.

btw, don't send me to swap to 3S-GTE because I cannot do it with in the law here... :-(

so I need to be satisfied with the extra 30HP between rev. 2 to 3...

[DFECTED]

Hi everyone,

As I mentioned in my introducing post (see signature for the link), my engine is 3S-GE and it's tired...

I considering my next steps (swap to same, swap to different one or overhaul for the existing one) and I've a few questions.

I'll appreciate any answer and/or redirection...

1. How can I distinguish between the different revisions of the 3S-GE engines (from looking on them, I don't have any other details on them)?

I'm assuming mine is 2nd rev. because it's from ST182 from 1992... but it is only an assumption...

Also, I assume the that one engine that I saw for sale (imported from Japan) is 3rd rev. because it is from ST202 (have no idea from what year).

2. Continuing with those assumptions (that my engine is rev. 2 and I've the option to get the rev. 3 one (and gain 30HP))...

Do I need to change also the ECU (and cable) or I can fit him on the same ECU I've?

Thanks in advance.

btw, don't send me to swap to 3S-GTE because I cannot do it with in the law here... :-(

so I need to be satisfied with the extra 30HP between rev. 2 to 3...

Hey mate, id assume you would have a second gen 3sge, if i was you i would just overhaul the existing one you have now. in the end if u get a new motor u could see yourself re building it etc. where if u rebuild the one you have now and put aftermarket pistons camshafts, cams etc you will se yourself possibly save around 1000-4000aus(depending if u are hands on). and have a faster car

hope that helps

craig

[selyaT]

3S-GE BEAMS

[black turkey]

i second the beams motion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gen4 3sge ftw.

but if u go looking for it you need the redtop version cos the black top is a north south engine (RWD) not east west. but still the redtop puts out 210hp i believe.

[AvivB]

Thank you all for the answers...

It is a bit tough with the law here... and when the law allow you to do something, the tax on it will be such that it wont be fun anymore... :(

For importing a complete engine there is 40% tax and on all of it I need to add 15.5% VAT... this means that the price jumps by more then 60%...

I thought about the engine from the ST202 because it is already here and I can get it for reasonable price...

Anyway, calculating all together make me think that I'll take "DFECTED" advice and just overhaul (with or without the upgrade) the existing engine...

The question now is to upgrade or not to upgrade...

If I'll decide to upgrade, it means that I need to start collecting all the needed parts from around the world, because we don't have TRD distributor here...

From the other side, I can just order a full overhaul kit from the local Toyota distributor here.

And to be honest, I'm not sure I know all the parts I need for overhaul and ordering parts from abroad only when needed will cause the project to be endless...

Anyone have a full list of all part needed for a full overhaul?

And what parts I can replace to upgrade the current engine?