D4D Hilux Turbo sounds like a siren

[RoryMuldoon]

Hi All

I did a fairly long trip a couple of weeks ago and my 2010 D4D Dual Cab Hilux turbo started to sound like a siren. It is still doing it several weeks later. There appears to be no performance issues and we continue to drive the vehicle as normal but the high pitched turbo whistle has changed its tune.

The noise changes in accordance with engine / turbo revs. You would think there is a fire engine somewhere in the distance. Any ideas???

Rory

[trentmeyer23]

Try uploading a video, it may help with diagnosis.

[RoryMuldoon]

Hi All

I have now attached a video and have more information.

In past weeks the vehicle has been well used and there are no performance issues, no smoke and no change in the noise. I removed the intake pipe this arvo and the compressor wheel is sound i.e. there is no movement. I went to a mechanic yesterday to talk about options and he threw straight to a new turbo at roughly $4800. I asked if he had ever fitted a kit or cartiridge?? He said "no - it's not the turbo that goes, it's the actuator and you can't separate them. He told me he put 5 2nd hand turbos into a Prado with the same engine but the problem wasn't resolved until he put the new turbo in. I won't say anymore about that.

I am convinced it is not the bearings being worn and the compressor or turbine are not rubbing on the casing. My question therefore is - What the bloody hell is it??

Cheers

Rory

IMG_1262 Hilux.MOV

[Manxman]

Air leak on inlet?

[shmel]

Hi Rory.

I am having exactly same sound.Maybe a bit quieter.

When I bought 10 years old Land Cruiser 120 (aka Prado, but in UK it is called simply LC), I didn't notice anything because the engine was hot. When I started the car the next morning, I noticed this sound, which is very ver annoying. Also changes with RPM, and appears after ~1500 rpm. It dissapears (or at least softens a lot) once the car gets warm, and you almost don't hear it then. However, if you do short trips (like my wife does), and every single morning I hea this siren-line drone or induction sound, whatever you call it.

I get very annoyed and decided to change the turbo as 3 separate mechanics told me it is probably ok, but definitely the turbo.

Because the new turbo was very expensive, I decided to go for a remanufactured one. I found the company that do businesstogether with independent mechanic. So they tried two different turbos (and the last one was literally new one, but totally remanufactured), and with all of them sond is still there. Slightly different, but still there.

What I did next was crazy. I asked that mechanic to take apart the whole inlet system and take the exhaust manifold out. He changed every single gasket, cleaned the inlet manifold, the egr vave (it was full of carbon), etc. At the end the sound became softer, and now it takes only 4 minutes to become not noticeable compared to 15 minutes before (I believe that clean EGR valve helped as it heats the intake manifold quicker now).

Anyways, I spent ~1000 UK pounds trying to get rid of this noise with no luck - only softened it a bit and made it dissapearing faster. After cleaning the intake system engine works much smoother BTW..., so not total waste of money:)

I decided to live with it as some people report similar type of noise on a brand new Prado 150s... (take a look here (user rugbynut) http://www.pradopoint.com/archive/index.php/t-24265.html)

Also, Toyota dealer told me it was ok for LCs to have this induction type of turbo noise. BTW, I have both nice whistle of healthy turbo, and this siren-like howl noise. Whistle is there all the time, whereas siren-like induction noise is most noticeable when cold.

Please let me know if you solved your problem. Does your dissapear when hot?

Alexey

[Smithers1]

Hi Rory

I have the same sound / siren . I took my brother out west to Cowra NSW and when he heard the noise he thought to himself that the police will catch us soon enough. Needless to say they didn,t .

Noise started one morning and has been with me for some 15,000km. No smoke, no power reduction, no rattle , no nothing except a few turning heads .Took to local mechanic and he checked it out . Couldn,t find or suggest any cure.

Spoke to the bro who has had a mechanical business for 40 years and his immediate suggestion was turbo noise.

Suggestion is live with it .

[Brendon McDermott]

2010 cruiser d4d turbo noise sounds like a siren

 

 

 

 

[Larine]

Hi Guys,

I am experiencing exactly this with my KDJ150R 2011 Prado.  Can anyone let me know how they went and cost involved to fix etc?

Thanks in advance

Larine

[trentmeyer23]

Inspect the two rubber intercooler hoses.

[Karaoke]

I am experiencing the same thing particularly with the siren noise; also theres noticeable loss of power.. was told by the mechanic to get a new turbo.. anyone been able to solve this issue? 

Edited March 24, 2018 by Karaoke

[turbochargersplus]

there was a mention before about Inspecting the two rubber intercooler hoses. Also check for any sort of vaccum leakage from any intake pipe/hose leading into turbo (or away on the exhaust side).  If you haven't already done so check your EGR valve.  As it is outside the scope of a normal service, they rarely are cleaned unless something goes wrong.  If it is caked up that will also affect intake into the turbo.  Do not under any circumstances accept "replace the turbo" as a first response unless it is obvious.  1 percent of actual turbos fail due to manufacture defaults.  Check hoses, pipes, oil pressure, intercooler.

[Jeff 282]

I might buy that off you! LoL 

[TommyLee]

I recently had this issue of the turbo making a high pitch siren noise on acceleration. We took apart the turbo and found the issue to be a broken shaft blade. Re[laced it with a new one and the sound was gone. it cost me $390(I'm in Kenya). that was a cheap fix. The job took like 4-5hours  

[Gitau]

On 2/14/2019 at 2:58 PM, TommyLee said:

I recently had this issue of the turbo making a high pitch siren noise on acceleration. We took apart the turbo and found the issue to be a broken shaft blade. Re[laced it with a new one and the sound was gone. it cost me $390(I'm in Kenya). that was a cheap fix. The job took like 4-5hours  

Please advise on where in Kenya you went for these repairs, Sir. I am experiencing the same problem with my Toyota Hilux Vigo 2010 Model 

[Graham Jones]

Hi all, Just had the same experience on my way back from WA. Load siren sound above 1500rpm. Had the Hilux flat towed to Penong (400ks) and $2500. Fitted a new Toyota turbo for $3000 at a great mechanical workshop there.Lux only done 190000ks. so was a bit shocked. My thoughts?? not worth risking the front of the turbo going and then one is up for a new engine.So bit the bullet and got home, all going like a train again. 

[Sirclippliers]

Hi,

I had a similar thing with an Isuzu trooper (holden Jackeroo ish), the issue identified itself when the turbo Karked it! Ive also had loose hoses and that just sounded like rushing air escaping. I think I'd be checking bearing movement as well just to be sure.

[David kilonzo]

On 2/14/2019 at 2:58 PM, TommyLee said:

I recently had this issue of the turbo making a high pitch siren noise on acceleration. We took apart the turbo and found the issue to be a broken shaft blade. Re[laced it with a new one and the sound was gone. it cost me $390(I'm in Kenya). that was a cheap fix. The job took like 4-5hours  

Hello Lee am having some issues with my hilux. The trubo whistles louder than normal nd the power of the car has reduced. I would like to get some advice before I open up the turbo. Am in Kenya. How can I contact u