I wouldn't call the FWD 'epic fail'. Sure it is has some aspects of it that is fail, but it still doesn't disappoint. So if you think it's an epic fail, would you turn one down if you were given one to drive? Too much wheel spin? Only if you aren't used to how it should be driven. Each to their own though. I guess you have to drive one to understand. Personally, if I was going to do something to the Aurion that involved saying goodbye to my savings, it would be something along the lines of what these guys have done (performance wise only): 2009 Camry 5.8l V8 TRD RWD at the SEMA show Mmmmm. Love that sound: Dont get me wrong DJKOR not trying to diss your car, but i have spoken to many toyota representavies , and asked why the TRD aurion wasnt a popular seller? They answered with toyota f**ked it up by making it FWD and few other things, and one them also said that is why they discontinued, but im not using that as a proper statement only from what ive heard . But the reason i say that its a epic fail if you do a bit more work to it, interally bolt on, or ECU wise TRD aurion is a powerful car you would want to see it go not spin half the time.