farout, that is just nuts!!!! Its like my mates rims, he bought some cheap $1000 jobbie things, hit a gutter side on and shattered the rim, whereas in my car, i have some AMG rims(not sure on price or quality, but i am led to believe they are farkin good - came with the car) and i hit a gutter the same way but at way more force, and i ended up with a bent axle and a little chip out of my wheel