ok how bout this: as in the nature of our usual saturday night villawood meets... the hills people meet at showground road maccas (as we always do), and we cruise to villawood by 8... we all hang out at villawood for a while... if george wants to go to palm beach at a strict time, go for it... the rest of us will wait for OH84BY and we'll go for a cruise to palm beach when we are all ready to set off... seem fair? if you have to be somewhere at a certain time, then go, but forcing people to leave on a deadline so you can be there by whenever is a bit unfair. Plus suggesting that you all speed there to get there in 45 mins is NOT the sort of scene we are promoting in this club. In suburban areas, we obey the speed limit so that people who aren't comfortable doing excessive speeds can enjoy the cruise as much as others... done and dusted.