sorry, posted in the aurion section coz thats the only place i go... :P looking for a lux or sports/lux - jap or euro must be similar size with all the features of the presara, and have the same power Audi a4 - maybe; IS250 - too small; TRD - doesnt have all the presara fruit; Liberty - no fruit except the stereo; Accord Euro - slow! wat other european cars are decent?