Ahh this thread brings the forum back to life. Whats funny is that I was the first on this forum to actually buy an Injen from IND Koncept and I am the first on the forum to own a CES exhaust in Vic. Its a shame that I didnt have both systems on the car at the same time. The problem is not about what brands, but related to people bragging about how big their c###s are, and thats what's annoying some of the boys. We have our meets, dyno days and drag days here in Vic, and after we post our results, there is always someone from another state "beautiful one day, perfect the next" that has something better to say. There is too much arrogance in some of the coments, and some of the guys here have had enough. It's also fair to say that since this forum has had a change in some of the mods, it's become some what boring.