More Camcon results

[JCTurbo]

Camcon dyno tuning. ONLY CAI AND CAT BACK EXHAUST!!!

[DANZZT231]

How's this compared to the Power FC?

[51EKA]

Power fc is still the best as it is a replacement ecu. It can control vvti and a/f like the camcon and also ignition, lift, rev limiter...

But how does it compare with a unichip? :P

[MR22ZZ]

The results get may not be that dramatic though as the standard ECU has a better tune here in Aus. One question though, why raise the lift point to 6500 RPM, just made the Torque hole greater from what I can tell, and lift more dramatic, would he a horror to drive IMHO...

[DANZZT231]

In US, lift kicks in at 7000rpm. So they drop em to 6500rpm in this case.

[MR22ZZ]

so why not drop it all the way to 6200???

[BigBum]

so why not drop it all the way to 6200???

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why not just drop it to start from 0rpm :o

[MR22ZZ]

because the car will stall below 3000 rpm on the high cam...

[51EKA]

Huh? What's with the raising and dropping lift? Camcon can't control such a thing. Only power fc... Where did you guys get that from?

[DANZZT231]

from that US dude.

It requires more tuning that just lowering lift point. I read on newcelica forum, 5000-5500 is the best point, and that's not just by trying which rpm is better.

[JCTurbo]

actually on the car in the Dyno he has lift at 6200, 05 and up has lift at 6500~6800. Lower lift is possible, I'm the one who is making the kit, the thing is, it's almost useless without proper tuning of VVTI

[DANZZT231]

by any chance, is there anyone in USA who already fitted a Power FC for the 1zz corolla? Is the PFC for the MR-S a direct fit? Or it requires custom loom?

[JCTurbo]

PFC for 1ZZ

[Gipper]

In my experience, the chip makes 10% of the difference, the tuner is 90%

A good tuner will make better and smoother power from a unichip than an average tuner will with a top of the range Motec (I have used both unichip and motec).

IMHO I wouldnt go for anything more than a piggy back chip unless you plan on doing some major internal engine mods. To think that you local guy can tune a full replacement chip for things like cold start, air con, limp mode better than toyota engineers with millions of dollars of resources and time is a bit naive.

Piggy backs like the unichip let toyota do all the work and then only change the mapping when you put your foot down.

Is the powerFC a piggy back or a full ECu replacement?

[Northy]

power FC is a full replacement ECU

[DANZZT231]

Power FC is sold for speficic car though, so its functions are set, unlike Motec. All the tuner has to do is fine tune it to match the car's spec based on what has been done to the car.

However, i gotta agree that perhaps Power Fc being a stand alone is far worth getting after some internal mod, at least a set of cams. Unfortunately there isn't cams available, but hi compression piston is available.

[xoom]

Unfortunately there isn't cams available......

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Thats what u think ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[DANZZT231]

Really? Who made one?

If its Crower, I know that got one for 1zz-fe, but no worthwhile gain is available yet. Monkeywrenchracing is helping them developing the cams but still no luck for great results.

[xoom]

Non of the parties you mentioned.....

They arent available yet but here's a preview ;) ;)

XXXXX Racing is proud to offer these XXXXX performance camshafts for the Toyota 2ZZ motor. In testing these cams have produced over 14 wheel horsepower and 10 pound feet of torque. Highly suited for the track and street, these cams will enhance your car while maintaining good drivability. Idle will be a little rougher than stock.

Oh and the talk of the town is they aint gonna be cheap either.....

[DANZZT231]

no set of cams are cheap, but this is awesome news. There you have, it, better get the cams and the power fc together to make it all wothier of purchase.