Sportivo gearbox: rebuild or buy 2nd hand? Help

[JakeP_]

Hey guys

I know this has probably been covered 1000 times but i cant find an answer to my problem.

Everyones had the same problems as me, downshifted one day and 'CRUNCH'. Now i cannot downshift into 2nd gear without it crunching hard. When my car is cold, or for the first half hour of driving in the morning, 3rd crunches up and down gears. My box is far gone as ive felt mine in comparison to my mates and his feels amazing. My clutch is stock and basically any day now its going to go. Cars got 117,000kms atm. Its getting worse and now sometimes it just rejects my shifts into 2nd, even when i shift slowly. Ive driven it pretty hard so its all my fault, with the stock clutch doesnt help.

Im buying an excedy hd clutch like ive been reccomended by many people, for $300.

But now im stuck with what to do with the box. I would love an LSD and a rebuild but i dont have the money to spend.

Im considering just buying a 2nd hand one for about 1k. Is this my best option? And best for the money? Or does anyone else have a better idea from their experiences?

Id appreciate some help cause i am stuck and it just gwts worse and worse everyday.

[Kenshin X]

in my opinion yeah if ur going to change the clutch, while the box is off get it reconditioned. a quaife lsd will set u back1k plus shipping but the lifetime warranty is worth it ;) i rebuild will cost u anywhere between 1.5k to 2k plus the lsd. a second hand one would be ok too but again u dont know how hard its been driven... mine started to crunch ONLY in high revs downshifting to 2nd but i bought another brand new box from MWR with quaife lsd and she drives beautifully. just save up and get a good box.

stock toyota clutch is crap, seriously... thats the reason for your premature wear on the box....

learn to rev match too... will help with the crunching for the time being.

[JakeP_]

in my opinion yeah if ur going to change the clutch, while the box is off get it reconditioned. a quaife lsd will set u back1k plus shipping but the lifetime warranty is worth it ;) i rebuild will cost u anywhere between 1.5k to 2k plus the lsd. a second hand one would be ok too but again u dont know how hard its been driven... mine started to crunch ONLY in high revs downshifting to 2nd but i bought another brand new box from MWR with quaife lsd and she drives beautifully. just save up and get a good box.

stock toyota clutch is crap, seriously... thats the reason for your premature wear on the box....

learn to rev match too... will help with the crunching for the time being.

I am a first year uni student, this is my first car and i only have part time work.. I cant afford that haha :(

Trying to keep my bill under $1500 if its possible. :/

[jeffy]

in my opinion yeah if ur going to change the clutch, while the box is off get it reconditioned. a quaife lsd will set u back1k plus shipping but the lifetime warranty is worth it ;) i rebuild will cost u anywhere between 1.5k to 2k plus the lsd. a second hand one would be ok too but again u dont know how hard its been driven... mine started to crunch ONLY in high revs downshifting to 2nd but i bought another brand new box from MWR with quaife lsd and she drives beautifully. just save up and get a good box.

stock toyota clutch is crap, seriously... thats the reason for your premature wear on the box....

learn to rev match too... will help with the crunching for the time being.

I am a first year uni student, this is my first car and i only have part time work.. I cant afford that haha :(

Trying to keep my bill under $1500 if its possible. :/

Time to sell your body lol :P the lsd alone is like 1k

[JakeP_]

Might just hunt for a used one as im not rich and ill be buying a new car in the new future anyway.

Hopefully i can find a descent one

[SuperDave]

Poor uni student with a broken car, this is the time you learn how to become a mechanic. Second hand box should be $1k maybe, plus the clutch, so then if you do all the work yourself it can be done for $1500.

[GHOSTIVO]

Save up for a better box jake,thats what I'm doing.

[rich70]

whoa, my previous owners must have been OK then, since i'm still on stock 'box and clutch at 120k km.
I haven't tried landing 2nd gear in lift yet, as everytime i push the stick down to get into 2nd gear, it just kinda jams up and doesn't want to go in until the revs drop to 5500-ish rpm.

Not sure if I'm just pussy or some of the gearboxes are like that.

I'm a uni student too man, after insurance, rego, etc, I'm pretty broke as well haha.
Reconditioning your gearbox is probably better than picking a 2nd hand one up since you don't know what it's been through. Your situation is kinda tough though since you need a fix ASAP.

Public transport for the time being? xD

[SuperDave]

^ sounds like you need the clutch adjustment.

[david.]

I was quoted $1200 for a new 2nd gear & 2nd gear synchro by simply sports cars. If you need a clutch as well then you can either save a bit more or just get a used box. Keep an eye out for one at a good price, if you learn to rev match the car will still be driveable for a while. Did it on mine for 2 years. Pretty much forces you to perfect it cos people give you the 'loser..' look every time you crunch :P

[Kenshin X]

"loser" LAWL :D

[rich70]

^ sounds like you need the clutch adjustment.

this?

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/36956-clutch-adjustment-help/

I've read up on it only lightly since I've been busy with uni etc. The car's enjoyable enough as it is anyway =)

Think after that and some better transmission oil it might fix the issue

[SuperDave]

That looks to be it. Since oil costs money, try the free fix first to see if that solves your problems.

[JakeP_]

I got mine reconditioned from Gear Exchange Services in smithfield where they changed 2nd and 3rd gears and synchros. Got the diff bearings changed, all the seals, gearbox casing, and all the cv boots, with my clutch replaced also.

Cost me $1800 plus i bought the clutch on top. So happy with it, recommend them to anyone. worth every cent.