Wheels rubbing guards & plastic?

xTiGeRx · August 22, 2004

Just did a normal everyday driving run through putty rd from singleton.

checked the car this morning.... :o :o :o :o

looks like i was driving over knives!!!

there's grooves ALL OVER THE OUTER edge of the rubber...

so bad..that there's bit of rubber litterally hanging off the rubber....

does anyone else have the same problems?

i had myself and 2 passengers and lugguage from the weekend.

checked under the guards..and there's already a hole in the plastic...looks like it's actually rubbing against the front bar mounting screw plate...

:( :( :( :(

qkslvr · August 23, 2004

ouch. sounds nasty. is your car lowered?

xTiGeRx · August 23, 2004

yeah.

low king springs.

215/45/17

peekay · August 23, 2004

Thats what happens when you lower your car. Get different springs. I know is a bummer...

xTiGeRx · August 23, 2004

i'm uploading photos of the rubber condition, as i type.

takes a while..(56k)

it's on page 52 or something.

influx · August 23, 2004

tiger i have 205 40 and lowered with the same kingsprings and i don't scrub driving hard on that road.

xTiGeRx · August 23, 2004

Hey Influx,

really? not at all?

hehe...coz i'm thinking of going the coil overs...

oh...but what's the offset of your wheels?

mine are really out...

Chris

Screaminrolla · August 23, 2004

i have 205/45 and lowered with no rubbing at all, i think alot of your problem is wheel offset

Ilivfor6 · August 23, 2004

Hey Influx,
really? not at all?
hehe...coz i'm thinking of going the coil overs...
oh...but what's the offset of your wheels?
mine are really out...
Chris

If your offsets are really out then you only have the 2 options of either raising the car a bit or new wheels. If they are rubbing that bad it can be dangerous. I have seen a prelude blow a front tyre through a high speed corner because the car was too low with wrong offsets. The Guard just sliced through the tyre and it was not pretty.

One thing to check is in the past King Springs have had a nasty habbit of settling a lot lower than the claimed drop. Maybe they have settled lower on yours.

Danthuyer · August 24, 2004

I read an interesting article in a magazine (europe) about rolling up the inside of arches for such particular cases. Basically you go to town on the inside of your arch with a blow torch and a hammer and then you use a baseball bat to roll it out and make it smooth again.

Although this kind of work is to be taken very easily at any time and dont go too gun ho other wise you end up with nice big bulges in your arches which dont look cool.

If anyone is interested in the article I can post it for you.?

influx · August 24, 2004

yeah city suspension in penrith roll guards without damage. some of their jobs i have seen are awsome like small cars on 18" wheels with the super low kings \with massive puffed guards.

KoroLa883 · August 24, 2004

My rear guard is rolled. it cost me $90

NIKICH · August 24, 2004

Do you have a pic of the rolled guard??

tangcla · August 24, 2004

Do you have a pic of the rolled guard??

Guard rolling isn't visible; it's inside, so you wouldn't really be able to tell the difference from the outside (unless you tapped the guard a little too hard... )

I'd recommend you look at getting a new set of rims. Firstly, it's not roadworthy, and secondly, even if you don't care about roadworthiness, you are putting yourself in a lot of danger, as you can see for yourself from the tyres... :o

Up to you!

xTiGeRx · August 24, 2004

i'm really contemplating on either

A) getting new rims

B) getting coilovers (many more bonuses here)

Around the same price anyways.

What do you guys think?

i'm leaning over to the coilovers.

tangcla · August 24, 2004

i'm really contemplating on either
A) getting new rims
B) getting coilovers (many more bonuses here)
Around the same price anyways.
What do you guys think?
i'm leaning over to the coilovers.

Marcus is gonna hate me for this post ;)

but I'd say get the rims, because if you get coilovers, you'll just raise your ride height again - you may as well go back to your stock springs if you're gonna raise your car again!

xTiGeRx · August 24, 2004

true..i will be raising the car...just a little bit more...

but...i'm happy to do that.

i don't mind at all.

plus...i can seriously drop it when i want to for shows.

oh...any1 wanna buy some sportivo 'low' king springs??? :D

DANZZT231 · August 25, 2004

1 solution FLARE EM!

tangcla · August 25, 2004

1 solution FLARE EM!

You could I guess, but it really depends on how far out the wheel offset is.

DANZZT231 · August 26, 2004

from the look of it, offset 40 with 215/45/17, flaring would fix it. I think the tryes are too thick being 45 profile. The offset sounds ok.

tangcla · August 26, 2004

from the look of it, offset 40 with 215/45/17, flaring would fix it. I think the tryes are too thick being 45 profile. The offset sounds ok.

Yeah, 215/45 is heaps different from 205/45 or 215/40.

Offset 40 is right, so the problem is the rubber then...

Specification  Sidewall  Radius  Diameter  Circumference    Revs/km
205/40-17          82mm   298mm     596mm         1872mm        534
205/45-17          92mm   308mm     616mm         1936mm        516
215/40-17          86mm   302mm     604mm         1897mm        527
215/45-17          97mm   313mm     625mm         1964mm        509

Considering you should really be using 205/40/R17 or 215/40/R17, you have thrown the total diameter out by over the legal 15mm (according to Victorian ruling), and your sidewall width has changed by over 15mm - 15mm which would normally clear your guards, but obviously no longer :D

kcorro · August 26, 2004

but factory zze123 is 195/55-R16 with offset etd 45

therefore the closest size tyre to run on 17s is 215/45

E-Gene · August 26, 2004

I think that we've discussed this before and my impression was that the diameter of 45 for a 17" wheel would be the closest to our stockies.

kcorro · August 26, 2004

i think it is a suspension problem. have a look at the ozzy hall of fame pictures below. looks like good ride height back then but what is it like today?

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/images/hall_of.../hof_480_bg.jpg

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/images/hall_of.../hof_369_bg.jpg

lorman · August 26, 2004

i think it is a suspension problem. have a look at the ozzy hall of fame pictures below. looks like good ride height back then but what is it like today?
http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/images/hall_of.../hof_480_bg.jpg

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/images/hall_of.../hof_369_bg.jpg

Dude,

I think that could be XTigerX's car in those pics!!!!

Chris Can you confirm?

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