Need New Tyres

[Danos]

Hey guys - Looking around for some new rubber for my standard sportivo rims 215/55R17 93V - I've heard you can put 225/50R17's on them also.

Can anyone recommend any tyres that they have put on there rims that are good but don't cost the earth. I live in Sydney so if there is a good place to go let me know here.

So far I'm thinking these (internet research only so far):

Yokahama - S.Drive or C.Drive

Dunlop - SP Sport 300E

Bridgestone - Potenza RE050 or Turanza ER300 (both 225/50R17)

Toyo - TEO Plus

It's easier to do research with guys that have been there before so gimme your comments . . .

Thanks

PS - almost done 50k on the OEM michelin energy crap, good mileage but crap tyres

Edited March 7, 2009 by Danos

[Lift yo']

Ive had Yokohama c.drive on my Lexus is200. ive never had a problem with it. very quiet and grippy.

same goes for bridgstone turanza (not sure which type) for my honda civic sports. they were quiet, although i did find the turanza wearing out abit fast... then again it could just be the way i was driving the thing... :D :D

personally i would go for the bridgstone Potenza's RE050..

Andrew.

[Rolla Boy]

Can't beat the Bridgestone Tyre Shop on Pacific Highway Artarmon...

Also go under the name of Jobsons Tyres, Artarmon...

Call in, see Joe and tell him Ben with the Orange Corolla sent you there...

[Kenneth]

my mum has the TEO plus on her odyssey, pretty quiet and its inexpensive :)

[JSTCHLN]

currently have toyo proxes 4's are cant fault them. had c drives previously and IMO i prefer the toyo's for grip both in dry and wet and plus the proxes 4's are very affordable

[lateralus]

in the past i've had hankook ventus v8 h424 rs tyres, and i honestly have to say that these were the best tyres i've ever had. they'd be around the $180-200 mark though in the 215/55R17's, which might be pushing it. otherwise i think the dunlop sp 300e's are pretty good

Edited March 7, 2009 by lateralus

[Jools]

Hi all,

I have purchased a new Aurion AT-X last week with additional rear parking sensors and 17" alloy wheels, all from Toyota dealer. Due to the lack of knowledge in car mechanics, I have trolled Toyota Owners Club forum quite regularly. Infact, I have been reading the Aurion manual.

On this New Tyres topic, Toyota have given me 235/45 ZR17 97W. What issues will I be facing when I need tyre(s) replacement? As the normal Tyre Specification sticker indicates 215/60 R16 95V and 215/55R R17 93V only. Also the recommended PSI per tyre is 30 as listed on the sticker, however what is the correct PSI for my tyres?

Did I made a bad choice for upgrading the wheels?

Jools.

[Danos]

Hi all,

I have purchased a new Aurion AT-X last week with additional rear parking sensors and 17" alloy wheels, all from Toyota dealer. Due to the lack of knowledge in car mechanics, I have trolled Toyota Owners Club forum quite regularly. Infact, I have been reading the Aurion manual.

On this New Tyres topic, Toyota have given me 235/45 ZR17 97W. What issues will I be facing when I need tyre(s) replacement? As the normal Tyre Specification sticker indicates 215/60 R16 95V and 215/55R R17 93V only. Also the recommended PSI per tyre is 30 as listed on the sticker, however what is the correct PSI for my tyres?

Did I made a bad choice for upgrading the wheels?

Jools.

Did you upgrade to the standard rims from Toyota. ie: Kappa Alloy Wheels 18" / Vortex-V Alloy Wheels 17". With that tyre size it does not look like it . . . What wheels do you have ?

Best place to go would be back to the dealer that gave you the wheels/tyre setup and ask them - Hopefully they didn't just get a good deal on non-toyota rare rim/tyre size which will make it harder (not impossible) to replace your rubber.

[Jools]

Did you upgrade to the standard rims from Toyota. ie: Kappa Alloy Wheels 18" / Vortex-V Alloy Wheels 17". With that tyre size it does not look like it . . . What wheels do you have ?

Best place to go would be back to the dealer that gave you the wheels/tyre setup and ask them - Hopefully they didn't just get a good deal on non-toyota rare rim/tyre size which will make it harder (not impossible) to replace your rubber.

I may send an email to my dealer, as all I see on the purchase invoice is "Alloy Wheels and Tyres".

The rim itself looks genuine from Toyota (has the Toyota symbol in the middle), but then rim looks more like Raptor 16"x7" than Vortex-V Alloy Wheels 17". Now I'm confuse with the rubber on the rim.

The Tyres are Summer Car Type, Alpha Accelera.

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html is where I learnt about the Tyre reading.

Regards,

Jools.

[Danos]

Did you upgrade to the standard rims from Toyota. ie: Kappa Alloy Wheels 18" / Vortex-V Alloy Wheels 17". With that tyre size it does not look like it . . . What wheels do you have ?

Best place to go would be back to the dealer that gave you the wheels/tyre setup and ask them - Hopefully they didn't just get a good deal on non-toyota rare rim/tyre size which will make it harder (not impossible) to replace your rubber.

I may send an email to my dealer, as all I see on the purchase invoice is "Alloy Wheels and Tyres".

The rim itself looks genuine from Toyota (has the Toyota symbol in the middle), but then rim looks more like Raptor 16"x7" than Vortex-V Alloy Wheels 17". Now I'm confuse with the rubber on the rim.

The Tyres are Summer Car Type, Alpha Accelera.

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html is where I learnt about the Tyre reading.

Regards,

Jools.

Hmmm 16" rims with 17" rubber ? Betta get onto your dealer - Or post a photo of the rims / tyres

[vorace]

GDay,

I traded the std Michelins for 225/50 V17 Yokohama Advan Sports the day I got the car. A little bit noisier than the Michelin Energys, but way more grip. Also the 225 size sits very nicely on the rims and fills out the arches better. They are also very slightly smaller and probably give better acceleration...also because of their much better grip, the highly invasive ESP activates much less.

The Advans are quite pricey but in my opinion worth it....if you want something cheaper and they make the size in a C Drive, then that is a really good tyre too.

I also saw a Sumitomo HTRZ3 tyre at that time that looks nice and has great reviews in the USA...otherwise if you want something cheap the I believe Firenza make a tyre in that size. All these brands mentioned are made in Japan and great quality.

[SuperDave]

If you're in Brisbane contact DHC09 as he has 17" RE001 he is looking to sell

FWIW: RE001>S.Drive and S.Drive>C.Drive

[Jools]

I have attached 2 images:

The entire wheel:

The rubber on the wheel:

I decided to check if there are any labeling on the rim itself, so I took the wheel wench to pop the cap off. Yet the rim did not show any thing at all. So I decided to check the spare tyre while I return the wench to the boot, the spec on the spare is a Dunlop 300E 215/60 R16 95V. Now... if I ever need to replace my tyre with a spare, will it fit?

Have a feeling that my dealer need to explain a few things to me.

Regards,

Jools.

[Danos]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I have 2 prices so far for 215/55R17's :

Toyo TEO's for $208 each

Dunlop SP Sport 300E for $238 each

Apparently the Toyo's are quite good and cheap for what they are - Anyone used any ?

Also - I'm in the Shire (Sutherland) Southern Sydney - anyone know a good shop down here ?

My prices are from Tubbies Tyrepower (Kirrawee) + Beaurepairs (Taren Point)

Thanks

[81dutchy]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I have 2 prices so far for 215/55R17's :

Toyo TEO's for $208 each

Dunlop SP Sport 300E for $238 each

Apparently the Toyo's are quite good and cheap for what they are - Anyone used any ?

Also - I'm in the Shire (Sutherland) Southern Sydney - anyone know a good shop down here ?

My prices are from Tubbies Tyrepower (Kirrawee) + Beaurepairs (Taren Point)

Thanks

I

I have Toyo Transpath on my 95 Celica.(215/45/17) Fantastic tread life with unreal grip, done 65k on the rears and still look new. Hammerd the fronts and had to replace after around 30k due to alignment issues. Hope this helps

[lateralus]

I have attached 2 images:

The entire wheel:

The rubber on the wheel:

I decided to check if there are any labeling on the rim itself, so I took the wheel wench to pop the cap off. Yet the rim did not show any thing at all. So I decided to check the spare tyre while I return the wench to the boot, the spec on the spare is a Dunlop 300E 215/60 R16 95V. Now... if I ever need to replace my tyre with a spare, will it fit?

Have a feeling that my dealer need to explain a few things to me.

Regards,

Jools.

yes the wheel will still fit and your car will still drive, but youll get a few shakes and vibrations until you return the original wheel of the same size to the same axle.

the 215/60R16 tyre on the spare is the stock one from the factory. on 17" rims you should have something like 225/50R17 or 215/55R17 tyres, as the tyres you have at the moment have a greater difference in rolling diameter (affects your speedo)

i'd be returning to your dealer and questioning the tyre choice.

[Jools]

yes the wheel will still fit and your car will still drive, but youll get a few shakes and vibrations until you return the original wheel of the same size to the same axle.

the 215/60R16 tyre on the spare is the stock one from the factory. on 17" rims you should have something like 225/50R17 or 215/55R17 tyres, as the tyres you have at the moment have a greater difference in rolling diameter (affects your speedo)

i'd be returning to your dealer and questioning the tyre choice.

Don't think the dealer would like to spend much more time with me, being under 2 weeks old, I already had 2 wheel alignment and its still going left.

What questions should I ask my dealer as I have lack of knowledge in cars? Otherwise I'll just wear down these 4 tyres and get proper ones.

According to the photos, do I have 16" or 17" alloy wheels? Never thought upgrading the standard to alloy wheels have such troublesome impact.

Jools.

[lateralus]

drifting left is a known problem with the aurion that can't be fixed through any number of wheel alignments. there's a kit you can get for it, some of the other aurion owners can help you with that.

the tyres you have are fine, there isn't that much difference between the current tyres and the original tyres, so dont be overly concerned about it. you can argue for the same tyre size as that on the sportivo 17" rims (because obviously it works well), but the tyres you have are still good so dont worry about it.

your rims are 17". see on the tyre size (second photo) it says 235/45R17. 235 is the width of the tyres, 45 is the profile (size of the side of the tyre) and the R17 is the rim diameter. it's not rocket science.

[Danos]

drifting left is a known problem with the aurion that can't be fixed through any number of wheel alignments. there's a kit you can get for it, some of the other aurion owners can help you with that.

the tyres you have are fine, there isn't that much difference between the current tyres and the original tyres, so dont be overly concerned about it. you can argue for the same tyre size as that on the sportivo 17" rims (because obviously it works well), but the tyres you have are still good so dont worry about it.

your rims are 17". see on the tyre size (second photo) it says 235/45R17. 235 is the width of the tyres, 45 is the profile (size of the side of the tyre) and the R17 is the rim diameter. it's not rocket science.

Is your spare rim must be 16" steel ? Overall outside rolling diameter will be close enough.

Using a tyre calculator - http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

- Your speed indicator will show 1.8% faster than with your stock tyre (when your speedo says 100km/h you are actually gouing 98.2km/h)

Think I'm going to go with the Toyo TEO's - will let you know how they ride

Thanks,

[tekkyy]

I note that nobody recommended Michelin Energy, the oem tyre for Aurion Sportivo

how does the above mentioned tyres compare with that one on price/grip/wear?

Michelin Energy was ~$230 for R16

[Jools]

drifting left is a known problem with the aurion that can't be fixed through any number of wheel alignments. there's a kit you can get for it, some of the other aurion owners can help you with that.

the tyres you have are fine, there isn't that much difference between the current tyres and the original tyres, so dont be overly concerned about it. you can argue for the same tyre size as that on the sportivo 17" rims (because obviously it works well), but the tyres you have are still good so dont worry about it.

your rims are 17". see on the tyre size (second photo) it says 235/45R17. 235 is the width of the tyres, 45 is the profile (size of the side of the tyre) and the R17 is the rim diameter. it's not rocket science.

I have read the Aurion FAQ regarding about installing the offset brush to solve the wheel alignment problem. However, from the thread, most Aurion owners have to pay to get it fixed than get it done under warranty.

I understand the rims on the 235/45R17 is 17", and my spare wheel in my boot is 215/60R16 and the first photo is a genuine Toyota Raptor 16" alloy wheel. Kinda confused with the 17" rubber on the 16" alloy wheel. Unless the the higher the rim on the tyre means I have lower profile.

Jools.

[Supercharged TRD]

I recommend Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001s. Insane levels of grip, and low levels of tyre noise.

[Danos]

I note that nobody recommended Michelin Energy, the oem tyre for Aurion Sportivo

how does the above mentioned tyres compare with that one on price/grip/wear?

Michelin Energy was ~$230 for R16

I could not wait to get rid of the OEM Michelin tyres - In my opinion they are crap if you have been quoted $230 per tyre for them then your getting ripped off. They cannot give them avay and I was quoted $170 per tyre for replacements.

Ended up with Toyo Tranpath MP4's so far they seem great - will give the car a nice run tomorrow..

Thanks for all your suggestions - -

[myztik]

i had adrenalin in my previous car. loved it. can't go wrong with adrenalin

[Danos]

i had adrenalin in my previous car. loved it. can't go wrong with adrenalin

Except the cost . . .

Went for a spin today down through the national park. Dry and wet as it rain on the way then back via the highway - Put the tyres under some pressure and 1. They are much better than Michelin Energies 2. I was impressed . . . might not be the best but certainly held there own. A bit more noisy than the energies but a heap more grip and don't squeel as much when under pressure.

Toyo Transpath MP4 - not too bad for the price

http://www.toyo.com.au/Tranpath%20MP4.htm

Edited March 11, 2009 by Danos