They can do that now? I always thought they'd let you off if they had no hard evidence, I mean, it really is just your word against his in this case if he didn't have a speed reading. Worrying thought that they're allowed to use that kind of "evidence" in court. i never knew that awell judge: So prosecutor i suspect this speed is a guesstimation? prosecutor: ummmmm * looking through his notes * I believe so your honor well im ok with it once again, i deserve the punishment and its a lesson learnt, for those who own a stivo its easy to speed and not reliese, espesh when u got new tyres and oil change its sooo smooth, music going u dnt relise.. so been training it to work, getting an early walk in the morning to the station, relaxing on the train... i get home quicker actually than the car.. homebush to penrith, with 2 trains.. $5.60 return, no km's added to the car, brilliant ! might keep at the train when i get my licence back