Hi Pete, Thanks for your reply. I think you will find that most of the members on this forum do work full time as well, myself included. I think that I need to state right here and now that this forum is the "Toyota Owners Club" Not the Corolla owners club, not the Aurion owners club, not the Celica owners club or any other model for that matter. The different sections are merely to break the forum up to keep things simple and organised. No, there isnt a section for every Toyota ever made, understandably so as there are only a few Toyota models that gain the attention of true enthusiasts. I'm sorry that you arent happy with the fact that the Avalon and Aurion sections are grouped together. To me, this makes perfect sense. - The Aurion is the (much improved) replacement vehicle for the Avalon, in the same way the Yaris is to the Echo. They dont have seperate sections either. - I cannot think of one Avalon owner. However, if we did have an owner, they would have a section, otherwise we would hear them complaining instead. To me, it seems like the Aurion members are only interested in their section. The person that started this thread hasnt even bothered to come back and reply! We are trying to help, but we need imput from all members to make this forum better for everyone. You need to understand that 6 months ago, this forum was 99% full of Corolla owners, and as such the majority of moderators turned out to be Corolla owners. Since then, different sections have increased in numbers and activity, and we want to accomodate this, but if the non-corolla members won't use the rest of the forum, I dont see what we can do to help. More than happy to take suggestions.