if petrol costs too much, dont have a car?!?!?!?! gezz, just this easter long weekend, I have driven to OH84BY's Place 4 times from the lower mountains. I know fuel cost money and I understand re-payments on houses and cars, but being SOOOOO close is just lame. if you had already made plans, then yeah...... can't do much there. I will be there, we'll fine a nice place where people can chat and cruise tooo cya there