This is a better article http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0...5010760,00.html Seriously, I think I need to learn how to drive on the rough stuff. As you prob searched, I went up the offroad track near Lorne (Jamieson track I think), and half way up I would not get over a mud pad. Perheps I chose the wrong path, tyre were 38psi, and traction control was on, but Kluger is not a full proof off roader for sure. Since this fool here cannot get up that hill after several tries :D