Funny how you say they don't have much power when they have as much or more than just about every road-going supercar ever made, including the vaunted McLaren F1. And as far as race-cars go, they have less than an Formula 1, Indy and NASCAR, but more than DTM, GP2, and many others. So _only_ 600HP, but remember they're limited to 5.0L, N/A, RWD etc. Plus they only weigh 1350kg, have 10" wide tyres and fully adjustable suspension, so chances are they'd be quicker around a track than a road car with much more power. It's not about max power, it's about power-to-weight and handling. Wow, some guy made a Commodore that has 900HP on a dyno. How well does it go around a track not sideways? There is such a thing as TOO much power (note how the Veyron is SLOWER around the Top Gear test track than a Caterham RS500, which has about a quarter of the power.....) And since when do NASCARs drift? They run on ovals primarily for crying out loud. They DRAFT, you idiot. Slipstream. Efficiency. Aerodynamics. They don't drift. They _do_ slide when they get whacked in an accident, but that isn't deliberate, nor are they using that as a technique to go around a corner. i think it is unfair that you call him an idiot when you are the one who obviously can't read. he is saying that NASCAR has multiple smashes and alot more than v8 supercars. therefore v8 supercars drifting would cause alot more crashes than the normal race. although in drifting there are only 2 cars allowed in a battle, if the whole grid was racing to the finish and having to drift around every cornor you would see a hell of alot more crashes.