need help car audio

[sikwitit]

hey everybody on toc

i want to put a bangin system in my 96 camry i have been many places seen many brands

i have prices for a systems they range from $1375-3000

the systems range from mild to wild

on friday i went to platnum car audio i told them wat i wanted they ended up trying to sell me a $2400 system

that had a 7 inch screen in the dash 2 6 inch splits in each door 4 6*9 in the parchashelf 2 12's in the boot with 3 amps

he said that price is only on till the sale ends next week he said to put a diposite on it but i think it mite be a bit to much for right now but i want to know wat u people think about the deal i'm still thinking about putting a dipost on it but still not 100%

wat you people think of the deal

Sean

[the_random_hero]

Stick away from "package" deals and forced sales tactics like that, while selling things is their job they don't have to force it onto you. There are "good" systems and there are GOOD systems - what they've mentioned is pretty bad.

What do you want from a system and what music do you listen to? I can design you up a system that should fall under your budget and will kick *****.

[sikwitit]

Stick away from "package" deals and forced sales tactics like that, while selling things is their job they don't have to force it onto you. There are "good" systems and there are GOOD systems - what they've mentioned is pretty bad.

What do you want from a system and what music do you listen to? I can design you up a system that should fall under your budget and will kick *****.

hey mate

thant would be great it would help me alot

i listen to rap rnb hip hop a bit of metal i have a budget of about $1100 for the whole thing

system i want is a set of 6 spilts in the front doors a set of 6*9s in the shelf and a 12 inch in the boot with a good quilty amp and a alipine or pioneer head unit don't care if the parts are mix and match as long as it sounds good

Sean

[dannywss]

a good amp cost $1k

a normal 7 inch screen, BRANDED(your choice of alpine or pioneer), $1k

normal 3 way speaker, $300 a pair for front, at the rear? forget it.

installation? another wat? 500-1k? do u need speaker pod? custom box?? neons? bling bling?

[the_random_hero]

a good amp cost $1k

a normal 7 inch screen, BRANDED(your choice of alpine or pioneer), $1k

normal 3 way speaker, $300 a pair for front, at the rear? forget it.

installation? another wat? 500-1k? do u need speaker pod? custom box?? neons? bling bling?

With a budget similar to what he has, there's no need to spend that much on any gear. If you're not willing to invest in some decent gear, don't buy crap stuff - slowly build your system up. I'd first start with getting 6" splits for the front of your car, a decent 4 channel amp and a single sub for the boot. This way, you can add onto the system without needing to sell anything you've bought. Splits need the most money spent, I'd be aiming for around $400 minimum, although there is some nice speakers out there that won't break the bank (Option Audio splits are one shining example that comes to mind). Stick with the stock headunit at the moment, when you save a bit more you can go looking for some awesome deals - my old work had JVC DVD players and a screen package for $700 not so long ago.

If you can install all the gear yourself, this will save you a HUGE amount of money, if you can't try and find an experienced mate and pay him in a carton or two :)

Where are you located mate? I can suggest some good shops you can have a look at if you're in Brisbane.

EDIT: Avoid 6x9's at any cost. They'll only make things sound worse. Work on setting up your front stage

Edited December 7, 2008 by the_random_hero

[Jaaassseeee]

the_random_hero. What audio shop do you work at?

I'm currently looking at the alpine type x pros 6" splits that i can import for around $500. You got anything to recommend that is cheaper and better?

i also looked at the hertz range and bostons...but not sure which 1 to go with.

might get splits to replace the 6x9's at the back too since i already have 2 subs running off a mono.

cheers,

jase

Edited December 8, 2008 by Jaaassseeee

[sikwitit]

a good amp cost $1k

a normal 7 inch screen, BRANDED(your choice of alpine or pioneer), $1k

normal 3 way speaker, $300 a pair for front, at the rear? forget it.

installation? another wat? 500-1k? do u need speaker pod? custom box?? neons? bling bling?

With a budget similar to what he has, there's no need to spend that much on any gear. If you're not willing to invest in some decent gear, don't buy crap stuff - slowly build your system up. I'd first start with getting 6" splits for the front of your car, a decent 4 channel amp and a single sub for the boot. This way, you can add onto the system without needing to sell anything you've bought. Splits need the most money spent, I'd be aiming for around $400 minimum, although there is some nice speakers out there that won't break the bank (Option Audio splits are one shining example that comes to mind). Stick with the stock headunit at the moment, when you save a bit more you can go looking for some awesome deals - my old work had JVC DVD players and a screen package for $700 not so long ago.

If you can install all the gear yourself, this will save you a HUGE amount of money, if you can't try and find an experienced mate and pay him in a carton or two :)

Where are you located mate? I can suggest some good shops you can have a look at if you're in Brisbane.

EDIT: Avoid 6x9's at any cost. They'll only make things sound worse. Work on setting up your front stage

hey mate thanks for the advise i think i might upgrade my head unit and 6" spilits

i'm thinking a good head unit so i don't have to upgrade later

on maybe a alpine iDA-X200 and alpine SPR-17S 6 1/2 splits componet 2 ways any body have these products are they any good i'm thinking there alpine they must be good

[sikwitit]

a good amp cost $1k

a normal 7 inch screen, BRANDED(your choice of alpine or pioneer), $1k

normal 3 way speaker, $300 a pair for front, at the rear? forget it.

installation? another wat? 500-1k? do u need speaker pod? custom box?? neons? bling bling?

hey mate i don't want a dvd screen the guy at platnum car audio tryed to get me to buy one

the head unit i'm looking at is a alpine iDA-X200 $399 it looks pretty decent and couse its alpine its a good head unit

and speckers maybe alpine Type-R 6-1/2" Component 2-Way Speakers $349 and alpine Type-S 12" (30cm) Subwoofer $219 don't know wat sort of amp still looking but they are all branded by alpine thats realy wat i want branded item so i noe they are good qulity

[dannywss]

i believe a lot of people will agree that alpine is good at f1 amp, and hu, not speaker.

bout hertz or boston(3 way, mid range), i installed BOTH on my aurion, tested, with sound-deadening(2 lv), ended up with hertz. Happy with it. BUT most importantly, HU! No matter how good is your speaker, if u hv a sh!t HU, u r just wasting your money/time.

[the_random_hero]

the_random_hero. What audio shop do you work at?

I'm currently looking at the alpine type x pros 6" splits that i can import for around $500. You got anything to recommend that is cheaper and better?

i also looked at the hertz range and bostons...but not sure which 1 to go with.

might get splits to replace the 6x9's at the back too since i already have 2 subs running off a mono.

cheers,

jase

I was a fitter at Autobarn Logan City, but quit about four months ago - more to do with a couple of people that worked there than anything.

Bostons sound quite nice to my ears, decent amounts of punch without being too bass heavy.

the Option Audio splits sounded a LOT smoother than the Alpine Type X's in my old managers Pathfinder, they were a combination of too trebley while not sounding "balanced", although this could have been due to where they were installed (factory position with tweeter on upper corner of dash)

I'm quite partial to Kicker RS-series speakers, installed two sets into a BMW M3, all amped with old-school Kicker amps. SO much punch and clarity, might be a bit bright for other people but I like my treble to be refined :P

But hey, my ears are probably different to a lot of others. You should go out and try as many speakers in a similar sized car to yours and see which you prefer.

In my opinion, splits in the rear are basically pointless - your front stage is where you should spend all your dollars. If anything, just throw a decent set of coax's in there and be done with it, amplify them if you have the amp available.

i believe a lot of people will agree that alpine is good at f1 amp, and hu, not speaker.

bout hertz or boston(3 way, mid range), i installed BOTH on my aurion, tested, with sound-deadening(2 lv), ended up with hertz. Happy with it. BUT most importantly, HU! No matter how good is your speaker, if u hv a sh!t HU, u r just wasting your money/time.

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

Edited December 8, 2008 by the_random_hero

[dannywss]

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

hv u actually tested?

[Fidzeh]

i believe a lot of people will agree that alpine is good at f1 amp, and hu, not speaker.

bout hertz or boston(3 way, mid range), i installed BOTH on my aurion, tested, with sound-deadening(2 lv), ended up with hertz. Happy with it. BUT most importantly, HU! No matter how good is your speaker, if u hv a sh!t HU, u r just wasting your money/time.

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

I agree with random hero, it's not about the headunit. I'm going to be running my stock headunit with a pair of JL ZR's and a 300/4v2 and I know already for a fact that the sound will be sex regardless of headunit. All you need is a decent amp and LOC if your running stock headunit

Oh and I have heard speakers running through an aftermarket headunit sounds pretty plain to me, but when you run it with an amp that's a different story you can tell by the difference.

Edited December 10, 2008 by Jerms

[the_random_hero]

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

hv u actually tested?

Yes, many many times. Considering we were doing 10+ cars a day, I've had plenty of experience in this field.

[SPLcamry]

Wll first off here are some good brands i would keep a look out for:

HEADUNIT

Alpine

Pioneer

Clarion

SPEAKERS

Digital Design ( I own the splits)

Alpine

hertz

focal

SUBWOOFERS

Digital Design

FI

DC

Alpine

AMP

Digital Design

Rockford fosgate

JL

JBL

Apline

These are some brands i can think of at the moment.

[linzz82]

Head units:

Alpine

Eclipse

Nakamici

Macintosh

Speakers:

Focal

Mb Quart

Cerwin Vega

Amps:

Focal

Rockford fosgate

Eclipse

[sikwitit]

hey everybody i have decided on the system i want

i alread bought a kenwood headunit that is a dvd playa with own screen cd mp3

http://www.alpine.com.au/products/product.asp?modelID=316 $249

http://www.alpine.com.au/products/product.asp?modelID=382 $159

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/list.asp?id=....SVC-Picasso-12 $149*2

http://www.soundmaster.com.au/list.asp?id=...ifier-(KAC8104D $199*2

sean

[DJKOR]

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

hv u actually tested?

Yes, many many times. Considering we were doing 10+ cars a day, I've had plenty of experience in this field.

This guy knows his audio; I'll tell you that.

LOL, on a side note Drew, I just remembered all the talk with you and Nikita about your guitar amps. Toaster/Jerry Can amp FTW.

[the_random_hero]

I disagree with the last fact. Music through a factory head unit with good aftermarket speakers will walk over a top of the line headunit with stock speakers anyday.

hv u actually tested?

Yes, many many times. Considering we were doing 10+ cars a day, I've had plenty of experience in this field.

This guy knows his audio; I'll tell you that.

LOL, on a side note Drew, I just remembered all the talk with you and Nikita about your guitar amps. Toaster/Jerry Can amp FTW.

Hell yeah, pity I sold it a while ago :( I'm quite tempted to make a couple more up and sell them.