new lexus RX 350 or RAV 4 V6 in disguise

[kwach10]

would a reasonable person consider this one as an alternative to Kluger Grande 4wd?

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...=60988&vf=2

It looks as if they stuck a straw in IS250 ***** and blown it up

still has useless rear cargo but gets 6 spd Aurion box

and what about the price???

but the biggest let down is this:

"Drive is through a new four-wheel-drive system, which effectively relegates the car to front-drive in regular driving, engaging the rear wheels when required. For slippery conditions it can be locked in 4WD at less than 40km/h."

so its is a RAV4 for double the price, at best!!!

[PC XT]

would a reasonable person consider this one as an alternative to Kluger Grande 4wd?

Ahh NO, Seating is only for five!!!!

[Blackkluger]

Is it really got 240kw? Aint it the same engine as kluger? ANyone know the diference?

[Blind Kid Seeks]

RX330 is just a Kluger... same chassis

RX350 has the Aurion donk.

[Mikeyboy]

Is it really got 240kw? Aint it the same engine as kluger? ANyone know the diference?

204kW

[kwach10]

not quite the same but very similar

5 cm difference in the wheel base!

as do the hatchback (not a wagon) and part-time 4wd in a new model - just like in RAV4

Dimensions

RX350

Overall length (mm) 4770

Overall width (mm) 1885

Overall height (mm) 1720

Wheelbase (mm) 2740

Curb weight (kg) 1975

Kluger

Exterior Length 4785

Exterior Width 1910

Exterior Height 1760

Wheel Base 2790

Kerb Weight 2035

RAV4 V6

Exterior Length 4600

Exterior Width 1815

Exterior Height 1695

Wheel Base 2660

Kerb Weight 1655

[Blind Kid Seeks]

the old kluger is the one i was refferring to and the RX 330

Make LEXUS

Model RX330

Series MCU38R SPORTS LUXURY

Series Year 2003

Price (New) $78500

Engine Size 3.3 L

Fuel System MULTI POINT F/INJ

Fuel Consumption (City/ Hwy) 17.2 /9.5 L/100Km

Tank Capacity 72 L

Power 172 Kw

Torque 328 Nm

Body Type 4D WAGON

Seating Capacity 5

Standard Transmission 5ASeq

Drive 4WD

Turning Circle 11.4 m

Kerb Weight 1881 Kg

Dimensions (L/W/H) in mm 4740 x 1845 x 1720

Wheel Base 2715 mm

Make TOYOTA

Model KLUGER

Series MCU28R CVX

Series Year 2004

Price (New) $49320

Engine Size 3.3 L

Fuel System MULTI POINT F/INJ

Fuel Consumption (City/ Hwy) 12.3 /0 L/100Km

Tank Capacity 72 L

Power 172 Kw

Torque 328 Nm

Body Type 4D WAGON

Seating Capacity 7

Standard Transmission 5A

Drive 4WD

Turning Circle 11.4 m

Kerb Weight 1765 Kg

Dimensions (L/W/H) in mm 4690 x 1825 x 1735

Wheel Base 2715 mm

[kwach10]

These numbers are even more telling:

The old kluger and just superseded lexus RX350 are brothers.

But the new kluger was developed new, and now the fresh RX350 is finally catching up, poorly that is :)

Kluger 2006 Lexus RX 350 2006 Kluger 2008 Lexus RX 350 2009 Aurion 2008

Exterior Length 4690mm 4740mm 4785mm 4770mm 4825mm

Exterior Width 1825mm 1845mm 1910mm 1885mm 1820mm

Exterior Height 1680mm 1720mm 1760mm 1720mm 1470mm

Front Track 1575mm 1580mm 1630mm 1630mm 1575mm

Rear Track 1555mm 1570mm 1640mm 1620mm 1565mm

Wheel Base 2715mm 2715mm 2790mm 2740mm 2755mm

[Taka]

Kluger is half the price for a bigger car.

The Lexus Sat Nav and audio is the same as in high range Toyotas. In fact the one in the Lexus ISF has an inferior screen (IMO) than the one in my Kluger .

Not sure I will like the look of the RX anyway.

Tell you what the RX Lexus are called Toyota Harrier in Japan.

[PC XT]

Kluger is half the price for a bigger car.

The Lexus Sat Nav and audio is the same as in high range Toyotas. In fact the one in the Lexus ISF has an inferior screen (IMO) than the one in my Kluger .

MORE SEATS IN A KLUGER ASWELL

[PC XT]

Kluger is half the price for a bigger car.

The Lexus Sat Nav and audio is the same as in high range Toyotas. In fact the one in the Lexus ISF has an inferior screen (IMO) than the one in my Kluger .

MORE SEATS IN A KLUGER AS WELL The luxus family doesn't have any friends that's why they are not required!!

[ToyotaFreak]

Kluger is half the price for a bigger car.

The Lexus Sat Nav and audio is the same as in high range Toyotas. In fact the one in the Lexus ISF has an inferior screen (IMO) than the one in my Kluger .

Not sure I will like the look of the RX anyway.

Tell you what the RX Lexus are called Toyota Harrier in Japan.

The just released down under MY2010 model is sold as a Lexus RX350/ RX450h in Japan.

[Colonel]

The just released down under MY2010 model is sold as a Lexus RX350/ RX450h in Japan.

While comparing Japanese models, it seems the RAV4 in Australia is the Vanguard in Japan which has a 7 seater model. There is still the RAV4 in Japan too but is the smaller version like the old RAV4 here. I was wondering why the RAV4s suddenly got a lot bigger here recently, they swapped it for the Vanguard.

http://toyota.jp/carlineup/index.html

Doesn't seem to be a need for the Kluger in Japan any more considering the size of the Vanguard. Probably why they ditched the Kluger there.

Edited March 18, 2009 by Colonel

[kwach10]

Japan has size-based car taxes. Kluger is probably just too big to be a popular buy.

That is why Lexus is smaller, probably just under the extra tax