Which turbo? help

[Mealsy]

hey guys

imwanting to start my car upgrades and im thinking a turbo

can anyone help me get started eg.

what turbo can i use?

what will i need to get it going?

can anyone tell me where i can get the stuff do it?

im not very mechanically minded so any help at all will help

thanks guys i look forward to hearing ur suggestions

mealsy

[Ronnyboy]

Welcome aboard....

In all honesty, i dont see you getting Turbo in your car..

[Mealsy]

Welcome aboard....

In all honesty, i dont see you getting Turbo in your car..

oh really why is that?

can it not happen? not enough room?

what do u suggest ronny?

[Mole]

First things first... whats your total budget and what model Corolla you got...

[Mealsy]

First things first... whats your total budget and what model Corolla you got...

its 02 corrola levin

not sure on the budget, just want to get an idea of what i have to do and wat it will cost

[xoom]

depending on whether u want to cut corners or do it properly it can be cheap as chips or nice and expensive

mate pretty simply put have a read in the ZZE FAQ pinned to the top of the forum.

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24512

look under the Forced Induction section in the first post

[konvic]

Do you have any pics of your car?

Whats been done to it so far?

[Mole]

First things first... whats your total budget and what model Corolla you got...

its 02 corrola levin

not sure on the budget, just want to get an idea of what i have to do and wat it will cost

It'll be cheaper for you to sell and buy a Sportivo then if you want more power. If you want turbo, buy a turbo car or be prepared to spend big money!

[Ronnyboy]

Welcome aboard....

In all honesty, i dont see you getting Turbo in your car..

oh really why is that?

can it not happen? not enough room?

what do u suggest ronny?

It can definitely be done. If done properly it may set you back 5K-15K. (Depending on what you do.)

What has been done to the car so far? How much KW does the car have now? How much KW do you want?

No Budget = No Turbo :)

[CHA54]

If you're not mechanically minded it will cost you between 12-25K to turbo your corolla so it makes decent power. For it to be reliable you'll be looking closer to the 20K end of the scale.

You can look at Bill's car for the top end of the scale, or Pippy's car for the budget end of the scale.

Pippy's car was initially tuned for 9psi with a WRX MY08 TD04L and it made 140kw atw, I've now setup gear-based boost control on it and it runs 14psi in higher gears but I haven't had it redyno'd to see what power it's making now. The car was previously running a TRD supercharger with water/meth injection making 117kw atw on 10psi.

It's now done 30,000km on the turbo setup, and 20,000 before that was with the charger, over 100,000km on the stock 1zzfe long motor. It hasn't had any issues with the engine etc in that time.

Rough costs & Specs are basically:

-Custom steam-pipe merge-collector turbo manifold with ceramic coating $800

-Secondhand very low km MY08 TD04L WRX turbo $300

-Custom 2.5" exhaust from turbo back with metalcat, magnaflow barrel center muffler and large stainless oval rear muffler $1200

-xr6 turbo garrett intercooler $150

-Alloy intake & intercooler pipework, silicone joiners with T-bolt clamps, Bosch plumb-back BOV and 6" base K&N Filter $1000

-Exedy extra HD Clutch supply and fit $800

-ST215 525cc injectors and plugs $200 secondhand or $560 new

-Vipec V44 ECU with 3bar map sensor and plug'n'play harness $2000 not including dyno time

-Oil Feed line/fittings, turbo water lines and oil drain line/fittings $300

-Sump modification for oil drain $200

-Custom inlet plenum $800 (not really required)

-Walbro in-tank fuel pump + fitting $200

-Engine oil cooler $600

That's close enough to $9K and lists most of the major stuff. In reality I'd expect a workshop to charge $12-15K for a comparible setup. We also put in a LSD 6-speed and it's matching driveshafts when the TRD charger was initially installed.

http://www.purcellperformance.com/dyno/1zzfte_dyno.jpg

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_Bay.jpg

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_FMIC.jpg

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_Manifolds.JPG

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_Turbo.JPG

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_Pipes.jpg

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_Turbo2.jpg

http://www.purcellperformance.com/1zz/ZZE122_V44.jpg

Edited November 18, 2010 by CHA54

[Mealsy]

thanks for all the reply's guys

i dont have any pics of the car and nothing has been done to it by me, nor has anything been done by previous owners.

i didnt expect the cost to be that big, although this is the first time i have looked into something like this hahahaha

my firend has been doing cars up for a couple of years and told me he seems to think i can get away with turboing my car for about $1200 so il have to have a word with him lol

i will have a look at the thread at the top for the faq and go from there i think

thanks everyone again i appreciate your time to help

mealsy

[Ronnyboy]

my firend has been doing cars up for a couple of years and told me he seems to think i can get away with turboing my car for about $1200 so il have to have a word with him lol

If it was $1200, Most cars on the street would have Turbo :)

Once again, i dont see you getting Turbo in your car :P

[CHA54]

I guess a $1200 turbo setup would be a good way to make an unreliable timebomb :P

[IMB055]

I guess a $1200 turbo setup would be a good way to make an unreliable timebomb :P

And one with a short fuse at that.

[Mealsy]

well i wont be getting him to help me with anything then hahahaha

thanks guys

[Mole]

Maybe he was referring to the cost of a turbo on its own, can get a ebay spec turbo for pretty cheap, or a second hand garret etc.

[johnnieboi]

I would like a turbo setup for $1200. what a bargain, but seriously, thats all it is. lol

End of the day, you gotta take into account also the downtime with having your car worked on. Do you have another car to use while the turbo setup is being installed? It may take a few months + whatever customisation needs to be done + any extra parts they need to source + tuning and getting the right setup. Might not be a simple job. At the end of the day, it could end up costing you a lot. Workshops charge you labour on everything, and it really ends up destroying your wallet.

[ben yip]

I would like a turbo setup for $1200. what a bargain, but seriously, thats all it is. lol

End of the day, you gotta take into account also the downtime with having your car worked on. Do you have another car to use while the turbo setup is being installed? It may take a few months + whatever customisation needs to be done + any extra parts they need to source + tuning and getting the right setup. Might not be a simple job. At the end of the day, it could end up costing you a lot. Workshops charge you labour on everything, and it really ends up destroying your wallet.

There is a thread here regarding a turbo update ,please search

Here is one turbo kit from Phillipines, for Toyota Corolla Altis, this car is popular to modify there

http://www.speedlab.com.ph/turbokits.php

[CHA54]

those LHD kits do not fit RHD cars in australia.

[Armstrong]

just to throw in the idea...why not a supercharger?

it heard a TRD or blitz supercharger is a lot easier to install plus if you have more control on your acceleration over a turbo. One of the guys from this forum in brisbane has put a switch on his supercharger so it drives like a normal corolla and is fuel efficient when he just wants to do normal driving.

just an idea

[CHA54]

The TRD supercharger is relatively easy to install but doesn't offer a massive power gain. The hard part is finding one in good condition with a decent idler bearing and bracket these days. The TRD charger also doesn't use a clutched pulley so it's effectively on all the time. The blitz charger uses a clutched pulley and costs a hell of a lot more than the TRD chargers.

[Mealsy]

ok so supercharger is getting my attention

what is the rundown on that. as i said im not very mechanically minded so all the help that can be given is appreciated.

mealsy

[SuperDave]

There is a thread here somewhere by 'Evo7' with a Blitz SC on his Corolla. Otherwise search for user '1zz-fte' for a turbo setup. He previously had the TRD SC.