I think an Off Topic Section is needed because as BigBum said the forum is starting to get clogged up with alot of useless non car related crap.... eg. King of the hill, have the final say, picture number hunt game, are you EMO, is jessica alba hot, pringles, evolution of dance, texas hold'em, Xmen ect.... And If the section does go ahead any posts in the section should deffinately not count towards your post count.... If the only reason people are posting all this useless info is to increase their post count I have just one question....Why???? do you really beleive that if you have a high post count you are more important/respected/admired..... well mabye in the eyes of your fellow forum whores but thats about it.... On other forums which I frequent/Admin if we find that people are intentonally posting crap in the NON Off Topic forums just to increase their count we reset them back to zero and give them a warning, if they continue they receive a short ban.... this is very effective B) Also as the forum database grows so does the costs $$$ for hosting/running ect.... Of course i dont know if that is the case for this forum but i would assume it is... anyway thats my 2c worth sounds like a bloody good idea, ill pass this onto steve and see what he thinks.