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Hey There,

Just thought id share this...

I am loving my '08 TRD...

had the pleasure of smashing a 5.7ltr HSV 250+KW LS1, not once but twice before dawn yesterday morning...

First run was of the lights and down a straight, I had him pinned for 300mtrs n he was at least 2 car lengths behind me, dint even use sports shift, could hear his cams scream as my blower kept whinning and pulling away from him... he backed off at 130km/hr... B)

Praying for a red light, we got one, both turning right into a big sweeping bend on to the freeway! Yes! better still, im in the inside lane...

Green light Go!

I dart ahead, he slips behind me, road straightens up, we both press metal on metal, he darts into the left lane (thinking that he needed it.. lol!) but to his suprise my Supercharger whines away and I pull way in front, by the time I hit 4th gear, I was doing 160kph and about 4 car legnths in front with my TRD just loving the petrol and powering ahead... LS1 backed off... Adrenaline pumping... so proud of my TRD, oh yeh @ full boost when changing gear @ 155km/hr, wheels spin going from 3rd to 4th... f*cking phenominal... :lol:

I knew TRD's were good, but this just blew me away...

PS: if you are from a law enforcing agency, this story is fictional... if your a toyota owner or better yet a TRD owner, you know what really happened ;)

lovin it... TRD588

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You can hear the whine from your TRD Aurion whilst racing next to a LS1 :S

Anyway I can see why the Police added TRD Aurions to their Highway Patrol units LOL

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yeh, the FWD thing had me too @ 1st, I had MY06 WRX (not STI, but chipped) and it stuck to the road...

It wasnt until I drove the TRD that I appreciated why the toyota engineers didnt go RWD or FWD... they have done a fantastic job with the traction control, and for the power the car has, it sticks to the road, not like the Rexy did, but in a different, more sophisticated way...

The Rexy made me feel like I was in a suped up go cart (which it was) but the TRD is like being on a train, heavy, powerful, and on track, heading straight for the destination...

@ pycone, bro if u havnt already, get ur hand on a TRD and FANG IT!.... I mean it will take u a day or so to get to know it before you will push it... but once youve taken her virginity, this b*tch is urs for life... AWD and RWD wont matter any more... try it...

I am curious to see TRD do go AWD in a new rumoured 2011 model... till then... im gonna enjoy eating up the eights ;)

Love my TRD...

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Good job...... so much power behind a toyota badge.....

Wounder how would it do against XR6T or F6 stock..... I would love to race these bad asses.... but i sometimes worry abt the outcome..... Was invited by XR8 to race on highway but i knew XR8 is no match for TRD but battling against XR6T and F6 would be fun.... :)

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Good job...... so much power behind a toyota badge.....

Wounder how would it do against XR6T or F6 stock..... I would love to race these bad asses.... but i sometimes worry abt the outcome..... Was invited by XR8 to race on highway but i knew XR8 is no match for TRD but battling against XR6T and F6 would be fun.... :)

nice... knowing that the XR8 is pushing 370 odd KW, i would have still given it run... just for fun ;)

yeh good point about the F6 (stock) its been on my mind for a few weeks... my mate owns one and i aint seen him in a while (he owes me $300, no wonder i dont see him...LOL!) but you Mr TRD555 have given me an idea...

We race, if I win he still owes me my $300, if he wins, he keeps the cash and i write it off as a bad debt...

Ill make the call and see what happens B)

Thanks for the thought... will update with outcome ...and maybe footage ;)

love my TRD...

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i'd say no chance against xr6t's, theyre like a modern day calais turbo

I doubt it mate.. seriously The XR6T's 4.0-litre inline six-cylinder engine is making 270 kW BUT!.... it loses 10% or more thru the drive train tp the rear wheels...

270 - 27 = 243kw... And TRD is 241kw with a loss of about 2% to front wheels technically it will be up to the driver and traction to see who wins...

The advantage comes with the understanding that front wheel drive vehicles drive the steered wheels, which means a driver can utilize the power transmission to the steered wheels to prevent/reduce a skid - something a rear wheel driver cannot. The engine is also located over the driven wheels, improving traction somewhat. However, traction is lost to the front wheels in hard launches, due to the weight transfer to the rear wheels, which is why a rear wheel drive vehicle has an advantage on the drag strip....

Having driven both, I think the power to weight ratio in the TRD is much better so id like to prove it... any one got (or know of) a XR6t in Sydney thats willing to go for a run???

Love my TRD :D

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i'd say no chance against xr6t's, theyre like a modern day calais turbo

I doubt it mate.. seriously The XR6T's 4.0-litre inline six-cylinder engine is making 270 kW BUT!.... it loses 10% or more thru the drive train tp the rear wheels...

270 - 27 = 243kw... And TRD is 241kw with a loss of about 2% to front wheels technically it will be up to the driver and traction to see who wins...

The advantage comes with the understanding that front wheel drive vehicles drive the steered wheels, which means a driver can utilize the power transmission to the steered wheels to prevent/reduce a skid - something a rear wheel driver cannot. The engine is also located over the driven wheels, improving traction somewhat. However, traction is lost to the front wheels in hard launches, due to the weight transfer to the rear wheels, which is why a rear wheel drive vehicle has an advantage on the drag strip....

Having driven both, I think the power to weight ratio in the TRD is much better so id like to prove it... any one got (or know of) a XR6t in Sydney thats willing to go for a run???

Love my TRD :D

You're on crack if you believe anything of what you just said.

Firstly, FWD cars lose a LOT more than 2% power between the flywheel and the wheels. And RWD cars lose more than 10% too - the figures normally come out at around 10-20%. And neither of those cars are making peak power numbers at launch RPMs either - a car with 200kw can beat a 300kw car off the line simply by having it's power down low, if you've ever driven a Toyota with a 4AGE and compared it to a 7AFE you'll know what I'm talking abot - despite a 15kw disadvantage the 7A can launch better and be quicker down low due to the better and fatter torque curve, but once the 4AGE hits the powerband it pulls away.

And as for FWD cars being able to "power out of a skid", remember that every bit of grip being used to accelerate the car cannot be used to turn it. Applying the power in a FWD car when out of control will simply increase understeer. And as for the weight being over the driven wheels to improve traction, whenever you are applying power you are shifting weight to the rear of the car (ie under acceleration) and thus removing weight from the driving wheels - the only time you get weight shift to the driven wheels in a FWD car is when you are on the brakes, and if you shift that weight too quickly mid-corner you will create snap or lift-off oversteer, something from which it is very hard to recover from.

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i'd say no chance against xr6t's, theyre like a modern day calais turbo

I doubt it mate.. seriously The XR6T's 4.0-litre inline six-cylinder engine is making 270 kW BUT!.... it loses 10% or more thru the drive train tp the rear wheels...

270 - 27 = 243kw... And TRD is 241kw with a loss of about 2% to front wheels technically it will be up to the driver and traction to see who wins...

The advantage comes with the understanding that front wheel drive vehicles drive the steered wheels, which means a driver can utilize the power transmission to the steered wheels to prevent/reduce a skid - something a rear wheel driver cannot. The engine is also located over the driven wheels, improving traction somewhat. However, traction is lost to the front wheels in hard launches, due to the weight transfer to the rear wheels, which is why a rear wheel drive vehicle has an advantage on the drag strip....

Having driven both, I think the power to weight ratio in the TRD is much better so id like to prove it... any one got (or know of) a XR6t in Sydney thats willing to go for a run???

Love my TRD :D

You're on crack if you believe anything of what you just said.

Firstly, FWD cars lose a LOT more than 2% power between the flywheel and the wheels. And RWD cars lose more than 10% too - the figures normally come out at around 10-20%. And neither of those cars are making peak power numbers at launch RPMs either - a car with 200kw can beat a 300kw car off the line simply by having it's power down low, if you've ever driven a Toyota with a 4AGE and compared it to a 7AFE you'll know what I'm talking abot - despite a 15kw disadvantage the 7A can launch better and be quicker down low due to the better and fatter torque curve, but once the 4AGE hits the powerband it pulls away.

And as for FWD cars being able to "power out of a skid", remember that every bit of grip being used to accelerate the car cannot be used to turn it. Applying the power in a FWD car when out of control will simply increase understeer. And as for the weight being over the driven wheels to improve traction, whenever you are applying power you are shifting weight to the rear of the car (ie under acceleration) and thus removing weight from the driving wheels - the only time you get weight shift to the driven wheels in a FWD car is when you are on the brakes, and if you shift that weight too quickly mid-corner you will create snap or lift-off oversteer, something from which it is very hard to recover from.

Hey, how did u kno im on Crack???

Ok, my figures may not be right ... however, from what u sed, its all up to the driver, his ability to drive and his knowledge of the vehicle, correct?

mmmmm.... Crack... LMAO!!!

Lets settle it... do u have a friend with a XR6t or what???

Luv my TRD... :D

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Ok, my figures may not be right ... however, from what u sed, its all up to the driver, his ability to drive and his knowledge of the vehicle, correct?

mmmmm.... Crack... LMAO!!!

Lets settle it... do u have a friend with a XR6t or what???

Luv my TRD... :D

It isn't solely up to the driver, but neither is it entirely up to the car either. It is a combination of the actual performance characteristics of the car, the driver's ability in general, and the driver's intimate understanding of the car itself and how to extract the best from it.

A good driver can drive a crap car fast. A crap driver can drive a fast car slow. A good driver can drive a fast car very fast. Get my point?

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I had a XR6T BF, 6 speed auto which they call ZF6. It was indeed very fast off the line. I tested 0-100 and it gave me 5.6 seconds. No modifications at all. When the turbo kicks in, there is no stopping.

I would say, stock TRD has no chance against stock XR6T off the line. TRD might catch up at high speeds.

TRD has a very good chance against the turbo if we do a rolling start.

I have never tested my theory or opinion. When i had the TTTT, never came across any TRD. Now i have a TRD and hasn't been given a bad look by a TTTT yet :)

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i have a friend with an XRT and im sure he will happily take it out to the strip and have a crack at the title... it's only got 400kwATW is that alright :lol:

LOL yeh should be cool... Ill enjoy watching his rear end dissappear into the distance in front me...

NO shame in losing if you run a good race ;)

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Ok, my figures may not be right ... however, from what u sed, its all up to the driver, his ability to drive and his knowledge of the vehicle, correct?

mmmmm.... Crack... LMAO!!!

Lets settle it... do u have a friend with a XR6t or what???

Luv my TRD... :D

It isn't solely up to the driver, but neither is it entirely up to the car either. It is a combination of the actual performance characteristics of the car, the driver's ability in general, and the driver's intimate understanding of the car itself and how to extract the best from it.

A good driver can drive a crap car fast. A crap driver can drive a fast car slow. A good driver can drive a fast car very fast. Get my point?

sure do buddy, I have seen all three... ;)

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I had a XR6T BF, 6 speed auto which they call ZF6. It was indeed very fast off the line. I tested 0-100 and it gave me 5.6 seconds. No modifications at all. When the turbo kicks in, there is no stopping.

I would say, stock TRD has no chance against stock XR6T off the line. TRD might catch up at high speeds.

TRD has a very good chance against the turbo if we do a rolling start.

I have never tested my theory or opinion. When i had the TTTT, never came across any TRD. Now i have a TRD and hasn't been given a bad look by a TTTT yet :)

cool, have you tested your TRD 0-100?

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I had a XR6T BF, 6 speed auto which they call ZF6. It was indeed very fast off the line. I tested 0-100 and it gave me 5.6 seconds. No modifications at all. When the turbo kicks in, there is no stopping.

I would say, stock TRD has no chance against stock XR6T off the line. TRD might catch up at high speeds.

TRD has a very good chance against the turbo if we do a rolling start.

I have never tested my theory or opinion. When i had the TTTT, never came across any TRD. Now i have a TRD and hasn't been given a bad look by a TTTT yet :)

cool, have you tested your TRD 0-100?

In theory it says 6.1. I haven't tested it though. The main problem is traction and wheel spin at standing start :(

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HAHA, TRD588 mate your on drugs.

Oh BTW before you try to shoot me down, I own a V8 Commodore, Work car is VE Clubsport, Boss's brother owns a TRD Aurion, Im not taking anything away from the Aurions, but your smoking crack if you think your going to "smash" the comparitive HSV. Seeings as the last HSV that had the 5.7L V8 was back in 2004 so well done.

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I thought this secton was for motorsport.

It appears the occasional person gets it wrong. Like three out of the whole forum.

HAHA, TRD588 mate your on drugs.

Oh BTW before you try to shoot me down, I own a V8 Commodore, Work car is VE Clubsport, Boss's brother owns a TRD Aurion, Im not taking anything away from the Aurions, but your smoking crack if you think your going to "smash" the comparitive HSV. Seeings as the last HSV that had the 5.7L V8 was back in 2004 so well done.

+1. Go Northy.

Not trying to put down the TRD, but it really has nothing against a stock V8 from the same era.

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above all , why does it matter in a straight line? how stupid can you be to assume your **** hot because you beat some guy off the lights...

I somewhat agree. But I can emphasise with the notion that you line up against someone at some lights and cross swords (lol) testing if your car wang is bigger than the next guy's... At that particular time all that matters is who can launch the fastest.

Choosing a TRD Aurion over other options at the same price range probably wasn't the smartest idea if you want to smoke other cars that are of the current generation and in the same category because it simply isnt as fast. (I think I said that as nice as possible)

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