Help me with my muffler choices please

[grima88]

Hey ppl as my title suggests I'm trying to decide what muffler to put on my 2003 Auto Ascent Corolla . I'm either going with an XForce S12 Twinloop (possibly with a Twin-tip welded on) or a Cannon with a silencer. I'm looking for a bit of a power or response boost, legal sound (so I don't get in trouble with the good old blokes in blue), and good looks of course :D

Also I think I've decided to go with Westside Mufflers (underneath JDM Yard) even tho its a bit of a drive cos I rang up n there prices are extremely fair as well as hearing pretty good reports on here :)

And finally I'm not goin to lose power having an Automatic car am I ???

Thanks guys and gals look forward to hearing your thoughts ;) :)

Edited November 13, 2006 by grima88

[DuGong]

twin-loop is good from wat i hear. not too loud.. looks nice too. more free flowing than the existing muffler. twin tip is much more louder i think...

[grima88]

twin-loop is good from wat i hear. not too loud.. looks nice too. more free flowing than the existing muffler. twin tip is much more louder i think...

Will it b louder (some1 else also told me this), but I thought it was Bullsh!t cos once it goes thru the muffler ther eis no difference with the tip. Wat does every1 else think???

[CORZZA]

i got an Xforce twin tip.

only loud after 3500-4000 rpm but a nice tone

[grima88]

i got an Xforce twin tip.

only loud after 3500-4000 rpm but a nice tone

No no lol I meant I'll get a Twinloop and get the single tip cut off and replaced with a twin tip

[sportiyo]

i would et the twin loop s12, looks good, not loud, cheap and it will actually make power

[grima88]

i would et the twin loop s12, looks good, not loud, cheap and it will actually make power

Groovy, but if I weld a twin tip onto the end of this (in place of the single tip) will it b louder ??? (I don't want it to be)

E.g. like the following (sorry bowt the dodgy paint shop pro work )

[CAP]

The tip or the amount of tips doesn't make a difference to how loud it is...

[shmicko]

I heard that there were no proven gains from installing any kind of exhaust system or any other performance parts on 1ZZE-FE auto's for that matter.. Let me know if im wrong.

[CHA54]

the tip size/design does effect the drone level.

[RME1]

I heard that there were no proven gains from installing any kind of exhaust system or any other performance parts on 1ZZE-FE auto's for that matter.. Let me know if im wrong.

Big Bum would know about this - he has had an axel back for his auto ICE'd out Levin .

I think the above statement is untrue, as the principal of less restriction should free up more KW's - it might not be as easily recognised

CANNON! FTW!! - they sound pretty cool

Edited November 14, 2006 by RME1

[BanGn]

The x-force twin loop is too restrictive... I doubt u would gain anything at all... Not to mention it sounds like stock...

Cannon power :D

[CAP]

The Auto needs a certain level of restriction, a cannon would sapp low end performance.

[SILVABULLIT]

Stock sportivo rear muffler???

[GAZOOM]

Remus

http://www.bestmufflers.com/

Canon's

Read the below thread some members lost power after installing a canon

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde...ic=2366&hl=

[BanGn]

Remus

http://www.bestmufflers.com/

Canon's

Read the below thread some members lost power after installing a canon

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde...ic=2366&hl=

Canon.

Canons comparison - spoon vs BC

People have also gained too mate. Wheres the dyno graph for Remus?

Edited November 14, 2006 by BanGn

[GAZOOM]

People have also gained too mate. Wheres the dyno graph for Remus?

Wheres your dyno graphs for Twin loop ?

I didn't make any claims on Remus I just suggested it based on what I've heard and seen on a few NSW cars. I have no Dyno graph for Remus.

Hes asking I'm suggesting

don't get a canon it drones at crusing speed, i have a magnaflow twin-tip loud up hills ( hurts ur ears actually) but the sound is great.

At cruising speed u cant hear the exhuast at all, sounds like it has the stock one on it

It seems your a bit confused

Edited November 14, 2006 by GAZOOM

[RME1]

1zzfe's 1zzfe Manual Conquest 03 made 80kw atm wth JUST a remus muffler... stock is arounds 75 KW atw

[CAP]

I never had a 'before' though, so I'll never really know.

[grima88]

Thanks all, i think I will go the xforce twin loop becos its an auto n already lacks balls a bit down low so I don't wanna trade it off even more for up high power (thanks GAZOOM for the link I must have missed that post when I searched). Plus the twin loop can't be as restrictive as stock anyway (come on the stock one is like a pea shooter ). And I'll have a think about welding on a twin tip :D

[BanGn]

Thanks all, i think I will go the xforce twin loop becos its an auto n already lacks balls a bit down low so I don't wanna trade it off even more for up high power (thanks GAZOOM for the link I must have missed that post when I searched). Plus the twin loop can't be as restrictive as stock anyway (come on the stock one is like a pea shooter ). And I'll have a think about welding on a twin tip :D

check out the honda forums for info on the twin loop.

Things have changed since 2005. How about u come out and show me Remus and ill show what what buddyclub is about. And how it loses power ;) <_<

[CORZZA]

since we on the topic here!

Guys whats the best size for a stivo cat back?

i mentioned 2.5" at castle hill exhausts and the guy wasnt like oh yeah good size he said yeah that will work.

[GAZOOM]

check out the honda forums for info on the twin loop.

Things have changed since 2005. How about u come out and show me Remus and ill show what what buddyclub is about. And how it loses power ;) <_<

I don't have Remus like I said before from what I seen and heard. I personally like Remus.

Your telling me that a cannon exhaust is going to work well on a 1zz automatic? Your entitled to that opinion but I respectfully disagree.

[grima88]

Thanks all, i think I will go the xforce twin loop becos its an auto n already lacks balls a bit down low so I don't wanna trade it off even more for up high power (thanks GAZOOM for the link I must have missed that post when I searched). Plus the twin loop can't be as restrictive as stock anyway (come on the stock one is like a pea shooter ). And I'll have a think about welding on a twin tip :D

check out the honda forums for info on the twin loop.

Things have changed since 2005. How about u come out and show me Remus and ill show what what buddyclub is about. And how it loses power ;) <_<

Hey bangn (or any1 else) I know I mite come accross as a lil lazy but can u plz tell us what ozhonda said the changes were for xforce twinloop after 2005. Becos I don't feel like readin thru millions of threads lookin 4 answers (like I hav bin on here) wen some1 who is very well read can help me out ;)

O by the way GAZOOM I agree with you there (sorry bangn) with the loss of back pressure on auto's, as I don't wana b stuck wif no power where auto needs it tha most (I've read this elsewhere too, jus wanted confirmation from you guys)

Thanks again for all ur help guys ;) :)

[revlimiter]

The x-force twin loop is too restrictive... I doubt u would gain anything at all... Not to mention it sounds like stock...

Cannon power :D

Seen quite a few people with twin loop mufflers and to be honest it's all a gimic and a waste of money. Well done Bangn you've spoke the truth But in saying that putting any cannon on a 1zz auto will not be yielding any sort of neck snapping increases in HP either.

Prolly the best value for money system to go on a 1zz would be a stock sportivo rear muffler. A little less restrictive than the 1zz unit but free flowing enough to make some gains and also for a decent price. I think Silvabullit is on the money with that one.....