Thank you, for the welcome. I did really join to get the information on this car, but you never know, it might grow on me. The car is BTW really like brand new, I could not believe it, when i first saw it either. do a search on the forum, someone posted up like a corolla with an extremely low kms on it, like 12km or something, he drove it from the dealer home and never drove it, its like full preserved, appearantly the reporter that did the report (lol) said it still had a new car smell,