Suspension change that owner of aurion made

[dannywss]

I called Pedders, they quoted $1k for lowering aurion with spring(no change to absorber) and installing rims. WITH camber pin for each wheels.

Wondering how much has owners of aurion who changed their suspension paid?

and if anyone used that camber pin?

Reason for asking is that KINGS spring itself only cost like i remember around $250 a pair, so total of around $700 installed, wondering if Pedder's suggestion would be better with $300 more..?

[Speedz]

Why not also change the shocks too since they will be stuffed later on anyway?

And then change it back to original shocks and springs when you decide to sell your car?

[spags]

1k just for springs, ur kidding?

Ive lowered my previous cars (skyline R34 and Corolla) for about $500-550 fully installed going back a year or 2 using Kings.

I know my bro (VZ ute) got both his shocks and springs all round by Wilkinson Supsension for $1100 (Very well known Suspension place in Perth)

[SecaBoy]

springs, camber pins and rim fitting for 1k sounds a bit over the top... maybe more like $700...

[v8toy]

man thats burnt i did mine for 600 with me gettin the springs at trade price so id expect to be payin 700 to 800 otherwise

and yes the camber pins for mine were nessecary which im guessin would be the same for most aurions

Edited July 22, 2008 by v8toy

[BONDIE]

man thats burnt i did mine for 600 with me gettin the springs at trade price so id expect to be payin 700 to 800 otherwise

and yes the camber pins for mine were nessecary which im guessin would be the same for most aurions

What are camber pins? If i got pedders sports springs, would they have put them in. Are they necessary and what do they do?

Bondie

[AcoustiK]

Thats what you would expect from Pedders or any major retailer. hows the warrranty on their work?

[v8toy]

As u lower your car or your suspension compresses the camber of the wheel changes which is fine with standard springs to the camber settings for like 1/2 a sec at a time (which is all it takes for suspension movement) but when its lowered the suspension stays at that lowered setting therefore changing the camber and changing it from factory specs which creates a chain reaction meaning it affects camber, steering response, tyre wear and many other factors. with the pins fitted u are able to readjusted the wheels camber back to factory specs at the lowered setting. the pns are in stalled on the bolt holeof the spring/shock strut and are an eccentric type bolt, when the bolt is rotated the wheels moves in and out changing the setting

i hope u understand what i mean it's sorta hard to explain simply but i know what im talkin about :D :D :D :D

at the end of the day i personally think it essential to have them fitted for the tyre wear factor (depending how low u go ofcourse) and to try and prevent the wheels from touching the guards on suspension compression.

Beware though camber bolts can by rights only be tensioned once but u can get away with 2 or 3 times they are just like cylinder head bolts which are pre tensioned. the pedders camber bolts from memory have to be tightened to 120ft/lbs and they are pretty pricy at $60 per bolt or $120 a pair i know this cause when i had my camber and wheel alignment done after lowering it the tyre shop didnt tighten the left front up enough it worked loose and gave me 3 degrees camber and chopped out my tyre b4 i knew it which also flogged out the bolt could have snapped and caused an accident i guess i caught it in time

[dannywss]

What are camber pins? If i got pedders sports springs, would they have put them in. Are they necessary and what do they do?

Bondie

wat price did u pay for it? then you probably know if the camber pin are put on..

Reading to v8toy said, if this is true, then any car that has been lowered, has to put on camber pin to adjust the suspension's camber setting..

But at the second part of wat he said, if a stupid enouf person "forgot" or "didnt know" they have to adjust/check the camber pin while doing wheel alignment, then it would be dangerous and deadly..? <_<

[v8toy]

What are camber pins? If i got pedders sports springs, would they have put them in. Are they necessary and what do they do?

Bondie

wat price did u pay for it? then you probably know if the camber pin are put on..

Reading to v8toy said, if this is true, then any car that has been lowered, has to put on camber pin to adjust the suspension's camber setting..

But at the second part of wat he said, if a stupid enouf person "forgot" or "didnt know" they have to adjust/check the camber pin while doing wheel alignment, then it would be dangerous and deadly..? <_<

yes by rights u do need them every time u lower a car or lift as well but with some cars or models u can get away by adjusting the originals (some manufacturers fir essentric ones) and it also depends on how much u lower them by too

yeah first i noticed that there was a slight knock when i turned and drove out of our underground carpark which has an incline so it was loaded up on that wheel quite heavily.

so i took it to work and took the wheel of and checked it and could see it had been turning also they had installed this one the wrong way round which was letting the end of the bolt touch the brake line.

so without hesitation i went a bought a new one and took it to ozzy tyres (they didnt do the job originally) here in darwin and had it fitted and camber checked at the same time the wheel guy just laughed when he seen it but i wouldnt have been laughing if i had have crashed and killed my gf or daughter or someone else.

Moto too this little story is i do all my own mechanical work myself now servicing and all except for when it needs wheel alignment etc and im there when they do that im just lucky im a mechanic by trade and can sign of the log books myself for warranty purposes

[dannywss]

yes by rights u do need them every time u lower a car or lift as well but with some cars or models u can get away by adjusting the originals (some manufacturers fir essentric ones) and it also depends on how much u lower them by too

yeah first i noticed that there was a slight knock when i turned and drove out of our underground carpark which has an incline so it was loaded up on that wheel quite heavily.

so i took it to work and took the wheel of and checked it and could see it had been turning also they had installed this one the wrong way round which was letting the end of the bolt touch the brake line.

so without hesitation i went a bought a new one and took it to ozzy tyres (they didnt do the job originally) here in darwin and had it fitted and camber checked at the same time the wheel guy just laughed when he seen it but i wouldnt have been laughing if i had have crashed and killed my gf or daughter or someone else.

after reading what you wrote, i am not more worried when sharing the road with those holden driver with stupid rim/lowered.. i believe none of them are following the camber thingy nor care about it.. it would be very sad to know that someone close died, due to other people's stupidity?

but hopefully, wat u said is correct..

[v8toy]

the way i see it if they didnt need to be put in why do pedders make them to fit the only spring they make to fit the aurion

and the holdens have many different spring sizes/lengths and different suspension type so they might not need them, all i know is they are made for the aurion and my camber was outa factory specs so these were installed to correct that and to save the all important tyre aswell

[zr nate]

I'm sure this question has been asked before but as i am about to do it i will ask again:

Who is your preferred lowering specialist? I can get it done through the TYre Factory where i got my wheel and tyre package or should i use PEdders?

anyone in WEst Aus got someone to recommend?

cheers ALL

[spags]

Wilkinson Suspension would be your 1 stop shop id say mate. Assuming your in Perth?

[zr nate]

Wilkinson Suspension would be your 1 stop shop id say mate. Assuming your in Perth?

Cheers spags, the name Wilkinsons was floated by a mate, just wanted confirmation, other option maybe WA suspension in Ossy Park.

yes i'm in Perth and finding it difficult to get things done...

[Freddo]

Wilkinson Suspension would be your 1 stop shop id say mate. Assuming your in Perth?

wilcos is pricey but they do a top job - get what u pay for

[Blind Kid Seeks]

Wilkinson Suspension would be your 1 stop shop id say mate. Assuming your in Perth?

wilcos is pricey but they do a top job - get what u pay for

pays to make friends with yuor local mechanics...

i got an A grade job, learnt how to do it myself next time, got to use thier floor to clean my rims on, and it cost me a slab of beer.

[v8toy]

Wilkinson Suspension would be your 1 stop shop id say mate. Assuming your in Perth?

yep these guys are the go i got a heap of my fourby gear there when i was in wa the spring guy even told me which leaves to pull out if i wanted it to flex a little more and generally just give me heaps of tips reguarding suspension mods.

these guys def know what they talkin about

[dharsh]

Hey everyone,

I know that when you lower a car that the new springs have to be stiffer and all, but I wanted to know has everyone who's lowered their car been happy with the ride quality afterwards? Has anyone found that after lowering their ride became so uncomfortable they needed to go back to their original springs?

The only reason I ask is the aurions ride quality is one of the most comfortable I've experienced - could only say the E-class merc is a whole lot better from what I've been in.

cheers

[beaves]

I put Pedderd Sports Ryders in mine and I wouldn't go back to the standards.

The handling is much better (roundabouts are a breeze at 70kms)

The looks are far better (the 45mm is a massive difference)

And the ride quality hasn't been compromised at all. Best $550 i have spent.

I am still running the original rims and tyres, I would love to put the Eleanors (18's) on her and see the even better results.......

[spags]

put Pedderd Sports Ryders in mine and I wouldn't go back to the standards.

The handling is much better (roundabouts are a breeze at 70kms)

The looks are far better (the 45mm is a massive difference)

And the ride quality hasn't been compromised at all. Best $550 i have spent.

I am still running the original rims and tyres, I would love to put the Eleanors (18's) on her and see the even better results.......

Glad i chose Pedders, im getting them done wednesday! Kings ive been told only drop by about 30mm. Should look sweeeet.

dropped, 19's, varex ooooo s*x

[ELEGNT]

I put Pedderd Sports Ryders in mine and I wouldn't go back to the standards.

The handling is much better (roundabouts are a breeze at 70kms)

The looks are far better (the 45mm is a massive difference)

And the ride quality hasn't been compromised at all. Best $550 i have spent.

I am still running the original rims and tyres, I would love to put the Eleanors (18's) on her and see the even better results.......

Beaves show us a photo of your car please!!!....im lookin to lower mine nad just gave fulcrum and pedders a ring then and they said the best they can do for me is lower it 30-35mm...Thats poor! i was thinking atleast 40+ how will i get that...i might as well just put a bucket of sand in my boot and it will lower it the same..

[beaves]

Here you go mate.......

from this

to this

more side on view

These photos arent the best but in real life you can tell it's lowered significantly, i have parked next to other standard spotivos and even the missus could tell.

Edited August 8, 2008 by beaves

[ELEGNT]

mate thats a nice stance!! how do u find the pedders spring...ive heard mixed feelings on them...alot of people say there not the best...thats y i was considering fulcrum...wat are they like compared to the standards?

And how come u could get a 45 mm drop and the pedders that i rang said 35 would be that appsolute max???

cheers for the help :D

[dannywss]

mate thats a nice stance!! how do u find the pedders spring...ive heard mixed feelings on them...alot of people say there not the best...thats y i was considering fulcrum...wat are they like compared to the standards?

And how come u could get a 45 mm drop and the pedders that i rang said 35 would be that appsolute max???

cheers for the help :D

i think the reason is that the rim is kept at 17 or 18, tats why more lowered. Usually people get 19 or better, 20.