Exactly right Gary The best exhaust is the one YOU choose. Sure there are more free flowing exhausts out there other then the CES, I'd admit that, but the CES has a comfortable sound to it as well as some gain in performance. It's this balance that some people are going for. This arguement could go on forever about who's is bigger then who's but at the end of the day, who gives a fat rat's clacker as Sam Newman would say. You chose the exhaust because YOU like it... that's it, if YOU are happy with what you buy, so be it... One great thing we have in life is choice... we should accept when other's choose different, commend them for trying something different... then GET OVER IT and MOVE ON!!! Yvets... to answer your question, Yes TRD make an exhaust for the sportivo, but the exhaust outlet is on the other side, and it adds 2, 90 degree bends and about an extra metre of pipe to get it there. I can't see how that would help...