I wouldn't have a clue Pete... I live in Wollongong, give me break... EDIT: just looked at the map... no... learn to use a map Pete... follow the roads, it's not even close. We could go that way on the way home though. But I take your point, I just gave one suggestion. Like I said, it's probably best to go in seperate groups and meet there then try and meet on the road. If we were to meet on the road I would suggest Mona Vale Road on the approach to McCarrs Creek Road. There is a long valley there with wide shoulders that we can pull over heaps of cars. I think there is a plant nursery on the side of the road there or something.