Kelvin you are in the sunny state of QLD.....which from last time I looked HAS THE MOST modified caorollas AROUND!!!!! IF one of us from thursday nights cant help you ......then gees i suppose you better talk to neil bates or toby @ meridian ;) ← I agree with eddy_torrezz with his quote on "i dont mind you guys having a dip but dont blow **** out of preportion. ya have a go for someone asking a question about somthing youve covered 100000 times then anyone who tries to give them some input ya shoot down in flames. this site is supose to be helpful for people who have and want to know about toyotas. but lately it seems like its just to take ***** at people for asking genuine questions." Hmm!!! seems like i am getting a buzz from you Craig.... I may not know so much as you guys with the 2zz but what i meant is do we need to fry someone when people start asking a question. Before you start, look at how many post steinny72 have post------11..... unless he has got hundreds under his or her belt. I know it is essential to keep the forum neat and tidy.... but what if he doesn't know how to search.....do you mean please do not post on the forum??? We have moderators for a reason... yup!! i know you guys are not paid to upkeep the forum but you are chosen for the fact that you are active, knowledgeable, helpful, etc. :D :D :D please do not fry me again :D :D :D