Suspension for 05 sportivo

[JSTCHLN]

Hey guys after reading through many different topics I am still left wondering which set up is the best value for money? I have been asking around at different specialists and have had mixed opinions. I was just wondering whether a coil over package such as cusco zero 1, or tein super street (ones that last compared to the taiwanese brands) would be better value for money than king springs and some shocks to suit? I dont plan on going to the track its just for day to day driving.

From what I have read on here it seems as though if you are going to go coilovers you might as well do it properly and go all out and spend $2000 for cusco's fitted and get the adjustable height. How much cheaper would it be to just go king springs and some shortened shocks? as i dont really want to spend that much?

What is everyones thoughts?

[TRDYUS]

It certainly has been discussed many times.

I also wasn't planning on tracking & thought about comfort before anything.

The first choice was a king/koni combo but I was weary of not being able to adjust it both ways.

Ended up with Tein Super wagons, great for street with its 3kg spring rate.

[evoke]

Depends if you got dosh. I went cheap and got springs off a mate and chucked it onto the Corolla in friends workshop.

Does the job...But i know ultimately there will be consequences.

Who cares, die for looks! B)

[JSTCHLN]

It certainly has been discussed many times.

I also wasn't planning on tracking & thought about comfort before anything.

The first choice was a king/koni combo but I was weary of not being able to adjust it both ways.

Ended up with Tein Super wagons, great for street with its 3kg spring rate.

yes i find i am in the same boat. how much more is it to go with the tein Super wagons compared to a king/koni setup?

[TRDYUS]

It certainly has been discussed many times.

I also wasn't planning on tracking & thought about comfort before anything.

The first choice was a king/koni combo but I was weary of not being able to adjust it both ways.

Ended up with Tein Super wagons, great for street with its 3kg spring rate.

yes i find i am in the same boat. how much more is it to go with the tein Super wagons compared to a king/koni setup?

Theres about a $400 difference more than KK's

[bonbon]

Around double the price now with the exchange rate..

Edited October 14, 2008 by bonbon

[TRDYUS]

Indeed I won't go purchasing anything from overseas just yet.

[JSTCHLN]

lol true that. hmmm might be a while before it gets affordable too.

for $400-$500 difference its probably worth going coil overs....

[daviboy]

whatever you do, dont get D2 Coilovers, speaking from experience here, not worth the headaches.

[TRDYUS]

whatever you do, dont get D2 Coilovers, speaking from experience here, not worth the headaches.

+1

by seeing others going through stress

[SuperDave]

If you have no intention of seeing the race track, save that $400-500 difference to the Tein's. The Koni + Kings is no different to buying a coilover set; Koni are pretty good quality and all you miss out on is height adjustment, which never gets touched once you get the height you're after. The camber adjustably is nothing camber bolts can't take care of and to top it off you'll still have rubber upper mounts and wont shake your dash apart.

Cusco's should only be used by people who want to waste lots of money and those that go to the track often.

[Kevsta]

The tein super wagons are great for the price difference over koni/kings. Adjusting them to max soft gives a very comfortable ride which is close to stock comfort. Firm them up to 10 clicks from max hard, and you'll be bouncing around and feeling every crack on Sydney roads.

You can adjust the damping in the rear coilover by taking the boot interior out. Whereas with the koni yellows, you need to take the strut off the car for damping adjustments.

The height adjustment comes in handy where you can adjust to the lowest setting when attending sydney tocau meets, and bring it back to up again for daily duties. B)

[DANZZT231]

The only downside with koni is you need to butcher your front shock to insert the Koni strut.

Not nice when you want to sell your car in standard form.

Great shocks though.

Edited October 14, 2008 by DANZZT231

[SILVABULLIT]

The only downside with koni is you need to butcher your front shock to insert the Koni strut.

Not nice when you want to sell your car in standard form.

Great shocks though.

Well then you get smart and go to the wreckers and buy some off a wreck and modify them....

More than one way to skin a cat......

[TRDYUS]

Not everyone would go through that to replace shocks...

[DANZZT231]

The only downside with koni is you need to butcher your front shock to insert the Koni strut.

Not nice when you want to sell your car in standard form.

Great shocks though.

Well then you get smart and go to the wreckers and buy some off a wreck and modify them....

More than one way to skin a cat......

I was going to do that, but it worked out after having to purchase the 2nd hand shocks, eibach spring and koni yellow, it cost close to $2,000 inc fittings.

It would probably be a different story if I want King Spring though.

[JSTCHLN]

Thanks for all the advice/ info guys really appreciate it.

I intend on bringing the stivo back to stock when I sell it so I guess if i was to do it ill be up for a couple of new struts after im done with the Koni+King set up.

As DANZZT321 said with this ontop of the cost of the springs and shock ill probs be looking at very similar money to the tein super wagons....and based from what I have read from other users who have the tein super wagons they can't really fault them.

SuperDave, cheers for the input with the King+Koni setup being more appropriate for 400-500 dollars less but taking into account that ill need to replace the struts after means more cash in the long run.

I dunno but to me it seems as though the tein super wagons might be the way to go based on the fact I can adjust the height if i need to coz no doubt ill put some new wheels on aswell.

In terms of pricing of coil overs, are the tein super wagons best bang for your buck? i spoke to some guy direct from bilstein and he recons $3500 for one of their set ups. that is just a little too much to what i want to spend! And for me the D2 coilies are defs out of the game from everyones feedback.

What would be the best $2000 coilover setup?

Cheers guys

[DANZZT231]

Check KYB AGX, maybe they have this for Corolla in USA. If not mistaken they are full shock replacement, meaning you don't need to butcher your std shock. Its cheaper than Koni, and is damper adjustable. Orange in colour for your information.

Then you just need to pick the springs.

Good luck.

[Dennis_ZZE122]

Cusco's should only be used by people who want to waste lots of money and those that go to the track often.

enough said

[SuperDave]

In terms of pricing of coil overs, are the tein super wagons best bang for your buck? i spoke to some guy direct from bilstein and he recons $3500 for one of their set ups. that is just a little too much to what i want to spend! And for me the D2 coilies are defs out of the game from everyones feedback.

$3500 would get you a very good track coilover, however it wont make you $3500 fast.

Sounds like you got your heart set on Tein's, but unless you can get them for less than $1800 I would wait till the dollar improves.

[DANZZT231]

I wonder if Tein Wagon for JDM corolla is actualy TEIN SS for US corolla.

[wil_rolla]

Check KYB AGX, maybe they have this for Corolla in USA.

hhhmmm, interesting... where can i get these and roughly how much?

[$ANGELO$]

whatever you do, dont get D2 Coilovers, speaking from experience here, not worth the headaches.

+1

by seeing others going through stress

why am i the only one who didnt have a problem with the d2s, they were pretty stiff and handling was greatly improved so for just over 1k you cant complain really..

[DANZZT231]

I like to know also.

During my corolla days I bought a Taiwanese brand coilover and I never have problem.

[TRDYUS]

There was talk about a Tein SS being made for aus specs.

Super wagon is a seperate product.

KYB is also an option, not sure about there comfort though.

Super wagons could have been bang for buck if they came out stiff enough for track also.

They're a great street application...

Edited October 15, 2008 by TRDYUS