Camber Pins/Bolts

[httttt]

From my understanding it is usually recommended to have Camber Pins/Bolts installed at the same time as installing lowered springs but I for one never installed them and have been running my King Springs for over a year.

I will be installing new bump stops soon and thought it might be a good idea to inquire about Camber Bolts. I have some questions for the better educated:

1. Are they easy to install DIY? (I have all the tools a DIY mechanic would ever need)

2. Has anyone used Eibach Bolts (or anything) before and are they recommended?

3. What price would you expect to pay for them?

4. I read that "Camber doesn't effect tire wear", is that true?If true, should I slightly Negative Camber my rear wheels?

Obviously I will need a wheel alignment after installation.

I have contacted Eibach Australia and they are very vague as to their product numbers. I'm confident I have found the right ones but does anyone know if the following items are correct/incorrect?

Eibach PRO-ALIGNMENT Camber Bolts (17mm) for the Front ( Part# 5.81290K )

Eibach PRO-ALIGNMENT Camber Bolts (15mm) for the Rear ( Part# 5.81270K )

FYI Ebiach Australia quoted me $160 + shipping for a complete set. But I can get them for Approx $95 for a complete set (potential group buy maybe).

Any help is appreciated.

[Steven]

I am interested in this as well, having just lowered my car and having scrubbing issues.

[rthy]

they are pretty easy to install, took about 20mins per side on a hyundai getz (DONT ASK)

running -3 degree camber on the ae86 over 2 years didn't wear too much, but depending on the car/use it could wear more?

VT+ commos run slightly negative camber on the rear and they dont have much issues

paid $80pair from pedders, maybe could get a deal to install and get wheel alignment?

Edited September 14, 2011 by rthy

[httttt]

they are pretty easy to install, took about 20mins per side on a hyundai getz (DONT ASK)

running -3 degree camber on the ae86 over 2 years didn't wear too much, but depending on the car/use it could wear more?

VT+ commos run slightly negative camber on the rear and they dont have much issues

paid $80pair from pedders, maybe could get a deal to install and get wheel alignment?

Thanks, yeah I talked to a mate and he said they should be easy to install.

$80 a pair, as in, you need 2 pairs? So if I can actually get them for $95 for the complete set of 2 pairs then I'm doing well?

[SuperDave]

1. Are they easy to install DIY? (I have all the tools a DIY mechanic would ever need)

2. Has anyone used Eibach Bolts (or anything) before and are they recommended?

3. What price would you expect to pay for them?

4. I read that "Camber doesn't effect tire wear", is that true?If true, should I slightly Negative Camber my rear wheels?

Camber adjustment is only needed if you need more camber (positive or negative).

1. Yes, but you'll need to have a wheel alignment done afterwards. Ensure you get zero individual toe, not zero cross toe.

3. $100 or so for Whiteline branded ones.

4. Toe has more bearing on tyre wear than camber.

[Steven]

Well I just got my guards rolled and it's removed most of the scrubbing but a bit remains. Options now are either to try to roll/pump the guards some more, or try these camber bolts.

[httttt]

Thanks SuperDave for helping confirm my thoughts.

Lets do it Steven!!!

[curry__muncha]

As Dave stated, toe has the greatest effect on tyre wear. However camber definitely does cause increased wear.

The ideal setup is to have no camber on the rear, and a little on the front.

Have you looked into Nolathane camber kits? Thats what im running atm to eliminate the camber caused by lowering.

PS. Is that your Aurion i see parked on grandview ave?

[httttt]

As Dave stated, toe has the greatest effect on tyre wear. However camber definitely does cause increased wear.

The ideal setup is to have no camber on the rear, and a little on the front.

Have you looked into Nolathane camber kits? Thats what im running atm to eliminate the camber caused by lowering.

PS. Is that your Aurion i see parked on grandview ave?

Thanks for confirming that for me.

How much were the bolts?

Yeah, that's my parents house but I don't live there any more.

[curry__muncha]

Ah. i've noticed your aurion for a while. I remember it was one of the fisrt aurions i saw lowered with nice aftermarket wheels. Always wondered if you were on TOCAU (i was barely active on this forum until recently)

The camber pins were $95 per pair. I got them from Jim Hunters Suspension in Third Ave, Blacktown.

[SuperDave]

I've got camber bolts off of Silvabullit before, could flick him a PM to see if he still deals/knows people.

[httttt]

I ended up getting the Eibach Camber bolts listed in the OP.

The main reason is to stop the rear scrub under load but I bought both front and back to do it all at the same time.

I will install my self then get an alignment.

[WhiteTRDAurion]

I had mine done through Toyota as a fix for the pull to the lift issue. Hasnt really fixed the issue for me.

When its starts to really bother me i'll book her into Fulcrum....