Forgot to mention WRC as well. They are limited to 340-odd HP, similar weight to a V8 Supercar (1230kg, I think both those weights are throwbacks to the Group A era, which both WRC and V8s emerged from), yet they are absolutely lightning fast (gearing helps, as does traction). When you think about it, they don't have THAT much more power than a bog-standard STi or EvoX, not much more weight, yet a tonne more speed. Thats what I was about to say as well, you are all saying that sideways is the slowest way around a corner, yeah on tarmac maybe, get out on the dirt and have some real fun. If you arent sliding, you're not trying hard enough. And you are correct as well, the WRC's are HP restricted, but they have so much torque its not funny (600nm+)