Optimax Extreme

[yowzer]

Hi all,

Managed to stumble with this info while reading other forums. Anyone care to try?? Will probably do at my next refill.

http://www.shell.com.au/extreme

[xoom]

hmmmm .... its an ethanol based fuel ...... might give it a miss .... for a minute there i thought we setup some special orders with Japan ;) ;) ;)

Actually corey i told u i would chat to the PM about this ;) :P ;) :P ;)

[CAP]

I'll give it a go on the weekend if it's cheaper than the non ethanol blended optimax.

["RuNx"]

So is it a natural Ethanol blend or is it a Synthetic Ethanol blend????????

Bill if u reading this jump on msn so i can send u the 2zz-ge tech notes!!!!!! :D

[Northy]

well that counts bill and myself out, as the power FC wont like the ethenol blend :(

[CAP]

One thing that concerns me with it is this:

Optimax is made up of 95RON Premium + additives to make it reach it's 98RON, so is Optimax extreme 95RON Premium + additives + Ethanol ? How Clean is the fuel ?

[Danthuyer]

well that counts bill and myself out, as the power FC wont like the ethenol blend :(

←

Any car that has been tuned to a specific fuel wont get benefits from uing it :(

[Northy]

you will be fine as long as you stay in lift :P

[negatron]

From the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries

http://www.fcai.com.au/

Toyota All Toyota models manufactured locally or imported by Toyota Australia since 1987 will operate satisfactorily on E10 fuel except as listed below.

The following models will not operate satisfactorily on E10 fuel due to material compatibility issues:

Camry with carburettor engines pre July 1989 and Corolla pre July 1994.

Supra - pre May 1993, Cressida - pre Feb 1993, Paseo - pre Aug 1995, Starlet - pre July 1999.

Land Cruiser - pre Aug 1992, Coaster - pre Jan 1993, Dyna - pre May 1995, Tarago - pre Oct 1996, Hilux , Hiace, & 4 Runner - pre Aug 1997, Townace - pre Dec 1998.

[DANZZT231]

Only trust Mobil Synergy!

[oodee]

Only trust Mobil Synergy!

←

YEAH !!!! Mobil Synergy 8000.

my car just doesn't run the same on BP, Shell or Caltex

[DANZZT231]

damn straight.

[negatron]

Just to give it a go, I've just gone out and filled 40 bucks of the stuff.

The power can be immediatly felt but its different.

Its hard to explain, but like when u go from normal unleaded to a 98 RON like ultimate or synergy the car feels like it can rev harder and more solid.

But with this stuff, it seems to accelerate as good or slightly better than ultimate but it just feels... for lack of better words, thin.

[CAP]

Yeah but Mobil doesn't have discounts yet like the others.

[BigBum]

if your car isn't designed to run on 100RON fuel, it'll most likely not do anything noticeable. In fact the higher octane fuel will probably lower the power output of the engine. Getting 100 ontane fuel is only going to help noticeably if you car is designed for it. don't expect higher mileage with this fuel either.

and yeah, it does have 5% ethanol... that stuff corrosive over time, but only in high concentrates i think.

but those guys with the unichips should be able to re-tune the car to run the new fuel.

here are the list of locations (melbourne) that was emailed to me:

F010 - COLES EXPRESS BURWOOD VIC 16-Nov

F321 - COLES EXPRESS ASHBURTON VIC 15-Nov

F488 - COLES EXPRESS RICHMOND VIC 15-Nov

F537 - COLES EXPRESS CHELTENHAM VIC 15-Nov

G304 - COLES EXPRESS ST ALBANS VIC 15-Nov

G687 - COLES EXPRESS FERNTREE GULLY VIC 15-Nov

G791 - COLES EXPRESS VERMONT SOUTH VIC 15-Nov

i may give this fuel a go next if i happen to run out of fuel in those areas

[obsessionz]

How much was it per litre??

anycar built before 2002 apparently aren't suppose to be using it ..

[BigBum]

How much was it per litre??

anycar built before 2002 apparently aren't suppose to be using it ..

←

$1.24 a litre at a station (Richmond) near the central city area here in Melbourne.

[CHA54]

actually, running the higher octane fuel will cause the engine to knock less, which will allow the ECU to keep the timing advanced for longer before it starts to retard it, which = more power.

[CAP]

That's what I thought, all engines benefit from a higher octane fuel, but those tuned specifically to run on it will achieve the best gains with it.

[BigBum]

This is how i see it. If your car was designed to run on 91 RON and the car retains standard ignition and CR, the higher octane fuel may actually lower the power output of the engine. Most higher octane fuels have a lower calorific value meaning less energy can be extracted per litre of fuel. The higher octane number only becomes a benefit if the standard fuel is detonating in which case the benefit of the higher compression/timing advance outways the loss in calorific value. Getting 100 octane fuel is only going to be a benefit if the car is designed to run on it.

[Azza]

A Couple of things...

One thing that concerns me with it is this:

Optimax is made up of 95RON Premium + additives to make it reach it's 98RON, so is Optimax extreme 95RON Premium + additives + Ethanol ? How Clean is the fuel ?

Check this out!!!! Clicky Clicky

Optimax is actually 98RON

Secondly, the official Toyota list of which engines can and can't use E10...

COROLLA MODELS

OK

AE92 - 4A-FE

AE95 - 4A-FE

AE101 - 4A-FE

AE102 - 7A-FE

AE112 - 7A-FE

ZZE-122 - 1ZZ-FE

ZZE-123 - 2ZZ-GE

NOT GOOD

AE93 - 4A-FE

AE94 - 4A-FE

NON-COROLLA MODELS

OK

ST184 Celica - 5S-FE

ST204 Celica - 5S-FE

ST205 Celica - 3S-GTE

ZZT231 Celica - 2ZZ-GE

SW20 MR2 - 3S-GE

ZZW30 MR2 - 1ZZ-FE

NCP10 Echo - 2NZ-FE

NCP12 Echo - 1NZ-FE

NCP13 Echo - 1NZ-FE

NOT GOOD

MA70 Supra - 7M-GTE

MX83 Cressida - 5M-GE

All OK with 1ZZ's & 2ZZ's according to Toyota unless you PowerFC your car....

Edited November 17, 2005 by Azza

[Otaku]

Caltex Vortex for the win!

[sportiv]

you will be fine as long as you stay in lift :P

←

dont know if i've got enough power to get up to lift these days...

[omn1potent]

I'll give it a go on the weekend if it's cheaper than the non ethanol blended optimax.

←

I have put some in today at G304 - COLES EXPRESS ST ALBANS VIC 15-Nov.

Problem is, its not cheaper than BP Ultimate, Synergy 8000 or the original Shell Optimax. Cost is the same! Should have been 5% cheaper .

[CORZZA]

Do you guys get bottles of octain booster here?